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Article #344Re: "Abductions" DO NOT exist :scientists should, like Carl Sagan did
From: F. Frank LeFever
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:00
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Waiting for a critical review of the exchange below: In <353fb853.0@news.netway.com> "Etherman" <etherman@mdc.net> writes: > > >Love Lies Squealing wrote in message <35412108.15460428@news.demon.co.uk>... >>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:53:21 -0400, "Etherman" <etherman@mdc.net> wrote: >> >><snip> >>>Again, Mr. Pongpa, please provide evidence that the "abduction" >>>phenomena is purely psychological. How long will my requests >>>to pseudoskeptics be ignored? >> >>For as long as it takes for the rosy dawn of realisation that people have >>been seeing little faces in dream-like states for quite a few years now. >>Check your copy of the Malleus Maleficarum for a rough overview of things >>a mere five centuries ago (300 years before McDonalds!) > >Sure, people have been seeing lots of things for different reasons. >Occasionally >it's because what they see is really there. > >>Now, if you're interested in the root cause of 'abductions' start taking a >>really good look at what is peddled out there as truth. Start with >>foot-doctors and Ceto. > > >What evidence do you have that the root cause of abductions is related >to media representations of abductions? > >><snip> >>>The problem is that Sagan himself didn't have any reasonable theory >>>about abductions. It's difficult to educate the public when you're >>>as in the dark as they are. >> >>Actually he came up with one single interesting item that should be at the >>forefront of anyones investigations into these things; >> >>Succubi and Incubi. > > >That's not a theory. I completely agree that similarities exist. Not >just with succubi and incubi, but with faeries, angels, demons, etc. >Instead we have the obvious question. What are succubi and incubi >caused by? > >Etherman > >The Internet's sole purpose is to get porn and >bomb making plans into the hands of children. > >etherman@mdc.net > > > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10384c,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid10384c,public X-Google-Thread: f98ed,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf98ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: f4268,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf4268,public X-Google-Thread: f6998,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf6998,public X-Google-Thread: f989f,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf989f,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 1107a8,127afb9bb3c99127 X-Google-Attributes: gid1107a8,public From: flefever@ix.netcom.com(F. Frank LeFever) Subject: Re: "Abductions" DO NOT exist :scientists should, like Carl Sagan did Date: 1998/04/24 Message-ID: <6hp0oc$e55@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> X-Deja-AN: 347184576 References: <3529458e.2038317@news.twics.com> <chkcorea-0604981825370001@dyn083a.px3-ri.ids.net> <3528F592.896@micron.net> <j20tJGABrzN1EwSa@prioryv.demon.co.uk> <3537B583.2390@REMOVE_TO_EMAIL.jhuapl.edu> <3539cf46.4878518@news.twics.com> <353AC79F.62B6@REMOVE_TO_EMAIL.jhuapl.edu> <353bdd73.0@news.netway.com> <35412108.15460428@news.demon.co.uk> <353fb853.0@news.netway.com> Organization: Netcom X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Apr 23 8:26:04 PM PDT 1998 Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,bionet.neuroscience,alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,sci.physics,sci.psychology.psychotherapy