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Article #515Re: "Abductions" DO NOT exist :They are misinterpreted sleep phenomena
From: Don P. esoxlNeodymium
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:00
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(Patan�e Pongp�) writes: > >There is a HUGE difference between Flying Saucers(or:M.O.C)in Europe >and in the United-States. >In Europe we have nearly no reports of the so-called "abductions". > >The reason is essentially cultural because "abductions" have been >created by a money oriented society which sells anything which can be >swallowed by millions of gullible Americans. > Yes and No. Yes, there is no question of how gullible amercicans are, that is pretty much self evident (the bulk of Americans anyway). However you cannot say ALL abductions have been created this way. >There are many scientific reasons which preclude such things as >abductions by ETI(Extraterrestrials)but these reasons are too complex >to discuss here and,whatever their rationality,they would not convince >the purported "abductees" to believe in their fairy tales anyhow. > The problem that you have here is equating abductions with the dreaded *aliens* (as well as many gullible americans do). I am an alien visitation skeptic. However, since I know humans have had efficient disc aircraft for at least 43 years, the abduction scenario may have a more down to earth explanation. Agreed that some abduction cases can be explained away with dreams, mental instability, etc., but one can NOT discount every abduction case as being false. It is very possible that a some abductions cases are in fact true, but the abductors were/are humans and not Mr. ET. The alien stigma is a PERFECT scapegoat for this heinous act. Just as the credible sightings are blamed on Mr. ET, so are many of the credible abduction cases. To suggest that ALL UFO sightings or ALL abductions cases are false is very closed minded. The facts are that humans have been working on disc aircraft and Unified Field Theories since before WW2. This human endeavor led to disc (and other shaped UFO crafts) that breaks the KNOWN laws of physics. It was/is a simple task to covertly blame the sightings for such craft on Mr. ET. It is also a simple task to debunk the alien myth (since in my opinion alien visitaion is not fact). The whole UFO and alien visitation realm is blamed on everything from Mr. ET to halucinations. However, the truth, the HUMAN aspects, are NEVER addressed, and for good reason, because it is classified information. Where everything BUT the truth will be addressed. SNIP >We do not have "abductions" in France or nearly none! > >Why? >Not because the ETI like to abduct US citizens and not french but >because our culture is different,less hollywoodian,more on the >Earth... > Or maybe because atfer WW2, france did NOT get any of the German engineers who were developing disc aircraft and Unified Field Theories before and during WW2. And maybe because France did not have many physicists/engineers/ inventors, as there were in other countries that stumbled upon some rather interesting interactions between gravity/electric/magnetic fields. I suspect three countries began development of disc aircraft involving Unified Field Thoeries after WW2, and France is NOT one of them. >French are more down to earth, less gullible,and not so much prone to >mass hysteria! > You say that you are not gullible aye. Let me ask you a question or three. Do you think that humans could have developed VERY efficient disc (and other shaped UFO aircraft) over 50 years ago? Do you think that it is possible that sometime between 1900 - 1930 that humans have made GREAT advances concerning the Unified Field Thoeries? Do you think that this (at least) 50 year old HUMAN technology was ever used to abduct a citizen (for whatever reason)? If your reply to these queries is negative, then I suggest that you are just as gullible as the rest of the masses. You say "Abductions DO NOT exist", I say you are gullible. You say that abduction cases "are misinterpreted sleep phenomena", I say a percentage probably are. You say that abduction cases are NOT the result of Mr. ET dropping by for a visit and a short ride. I agree, but I will remain open minded to any physical evidence of Mr. ET. Could humans have abducted citizens with their UFO crafts? The correct question should be, HOW MANY citizens have been abducted by humans and their UFO crafts? Don't feel that you are alone with you narrow minded views. This and every other UFO and alien visitation forum (hat I have seen) devotes all their attention to every concept under the sun, accpet the HUMAN aspect. Seems that blaming HUMANS for the UFO and alien visitation phenomenon is a TABOO subject. Have any idea why that would be!?!?!? Join the gullible club frenchman! Kind Regards Don Palermo Investigator of Theoretical Physics, and Unified Field Theories. To reply by email remove Neodymium. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Humans have had VERY efficient disc aircraft for at least 43 years." ETH (Alien Visitation) skeptic UFO (Human Made Disc Aircraft) proponent ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 10b271,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: f4268,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf4268,public X-Google-Thread: f989f,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf989f,public X-Google-Thread: f6998,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf6998,public X-Google-Thread: f98ed,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gidf98ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10384c,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid10384c,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,a4646fb62e4d92ad X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public From: (Don P.) esoxlNeodymium@juno.com@ Subject: Re: "Abductions" DO NOT exist :They are misinterpreted sleep phenomena Date: 1998/04/07 Message-ID: <6gdq1a$plg$1@news.rchland.ibm.com> X-Deja-AN: 341777574 References: <3529458e.2038317@news.twics.com> Organization: IBM Rochester MN Reply-To: (Don P.) esoxlNeodymium@juno.com Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,bionet.neuroscience,alt.dreams,sci.physics,sci.psychology.psychotherapy