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Article #518Re: Roswell and conspiracy theories
From: Pombolo
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:32
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:32
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On Jul 3, 7:24 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote: > On Jul 3, 2:01 pm, HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [Snip and enormous load of crap and meaningless opinion] > > > So now you believe that there were NO aliens at Roswell, and > > that the government ISN'T involved in a cover up? > > > Seems to me that he hit the nail on the head. > > So now that without anything to back up your statements you've somehow > managed to determine exactly what I believe! Amazing! Or should I say > Amazing, Randy! And you''ve done this without me ever stating an > opinion on the subjects involved! And even better first you say I'm a > "believer: in Roswell aliens (never said it) and then above you decide > that now I "believe" there were "NO" aliens at Roswell. Obviously > since you have nothing to go on here, it's no surprise you can't make > up your mind. (if have a mind there, which I do NOT "believe"!) > > But you on the other hand ARE a "believer! You say it right above. You > "believe" there were NO Aliens at Roswell and the that government > "ISN'T" involved in a cover up. [Can we assume you mean never involved > in ANY cover up EVER?] > Care to offer any proof to support your 'belief" in this position > beyond your arrogant opinion? I thought not. > > So now that we have this settled that YOU are a "believer" and I am > not, perhaps you'll give us a real name so we can judge your cranial > location because at present with you as a "believer" it seems to be > located where the sun don't shine. BenJ: If you were the one who originally claimed anything about Roswell, aliens, or the government - then for someone to disagree with you does NOT mean that they are making a counter-claim. I can express disbelief in something without automatically becoming a "believer" in the other possibility: even if there is only one remaining possibility. For example, if someone flips a coin, do you believe that it is heads? You can talk about probability, but do you *believe* it is heads? If not, then are you necessarily declaring that it is tails? Disbelief in someone's claim does NOT translate into belief in the opposite possibility.
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X-Google-Thread: f2e683d4c7,40ef799646e86cde,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf2e683d4c7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.netfront.net!News.Dal.Ca!news.wind.surfnet.nl!news.litech.org!news.glorb.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!d32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pombolo <intiom@googlemail.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.research, alt.atheism, alt.paranormal.crop-circles, alt.alien.visitors, sci.skeptic, bit.listserv.skeptic Subject: Re: Roswell and conspiracy theories Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 46 Approved: skeptix@lists.opn.org Message-ID: <mailman.167.1246752658.16345.skeptix_lists.opn.org@lists.opn.org> References: <aa9d7bad-b70a-483e-a5df-e297422c40af@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <3df3e537-dfac-4c36-8171-83355a99b508@18g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: Scientific discussion of extraordinary things <skeptix@lists.opn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.124.195.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: adenine.netfront.net 1246752664 33167 74.124.195.5 (5 Jul 2009 00:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@netfront.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=79.71.219.138; posting-account=hxwyrQoAAACegHhFEKxlu99JyK6yOnE0 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009061622 Mandriva/1.9.0.11-0.1mdv2009.1 (2009.1) Firefox/3.0.11, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) ReSent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:52:02 -0300 (ADT) Resent-Sender: Garrison Hilliard <aa790@chebucto.ns.ca> ReSent-From: Garrison Hilliard <aa790@chebucto.ns.ca> ReSent-To: skeptix@lists.opn.org ReSent-Subject: Re: Roswell and conspiracy theories ReSent-Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0907031852020.21458@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 X-Spam-Score: -12 X-Spam-Bar: - X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:55:34 -0700 X-BeenThere: skeptix@lists.opn.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11.cp3 Precedence: list List-Id: Scientific discussion of extraordinary things <skeptix_lists.opn.org.lists.opn.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.lists.opn.org/mailman/options/skeptix_lists.opn.org>, <mailto:skeptix-request@lists.opn.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.lists.opn.org/pipermail/skeptix_lists.opn.org> List-Post: <mailto:skeptix@lists.opn.org> List-Help: <mailto:skeptix-request@lists.opn.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.lists.opn.org/mailman/listinfo/skeptix_lists.opn.org>, <mailto:skeptix-request@lists.opn.org?subject=subscribe>