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Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51
Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51
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Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré conjecture, about the nature of space. After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human thought." Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is equivalent to a sphere. " "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the Earth." http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin Now this is exciting!
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: ah
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:53
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:53
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Holly wrote: > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > conjecture, about the nature of space. > > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > thought." > > > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > equivalent to a sphere. " > > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > Earth." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > Now this is exciting! Considering the intractable n≥7, it's no surprise. -- ah
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:26
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:26
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ah wrote: > Holly wrote: > > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > > > > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > > conjecture, about the nature of space. > > > > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > > > > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > > > > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > > thought." > > > > > > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > > equivalent to a sphere. " > > > > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > > Earth." > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > > > Now this is exciting! > > Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time complexity? · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff>
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: ah
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:07
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:07
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Holly wrote: > ah wrote: >> Holly wrote: >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! >> > >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincar� >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. >> > >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. >> > >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. >> > >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human >> > thought." >> > >> > >> > Poincar�'s conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is >> > equivalent to a sphere. " >> > >> > "In effect, what Poincar� suggested was that anything without holes >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the >> > Earth." >> > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin >> > >> > Now this is exciting! >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > > > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > complexity? Standard deviation, I guess. > � DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> Filth! -- ah
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:23
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:23
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ah wrote: > Holly wrote: > > ah wrote: > >> Holly wrote: > >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > >> > > >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. > >> > > >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > >> > > >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > >> > > >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > >> > thought." > >> > > >> > > >> > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > >> > equivalent to a sphere. " > >> > > >> > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > >> > Earth." > >> > > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > >> > > >> > Now this is exciting! > >> > >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > > > > > > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > > complexity? > > Standard deviation, I guess. > > > · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> > > Filth! > -- > ah What part of your body do you scratch N sniff?
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: ah
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:10
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:10
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Holly wrote: > ah wrote: >> Holly wrote: >> > ah wrote: >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! >> >> > >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincar� >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. >> >> > >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. >> >> > >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. >> >> > >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human >> >> > thought." >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Poincar�'s conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " >> >> > >> >> > "In effect, what Poincar� suggested was that anything without holes >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the >> >> > Earth." >> >> > >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin >> >> > >> >> > Now this is exciting! >> >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. >> > >> > >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time >> > complexity? >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. >> >> > � DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> >> >> Filth! >> -- >> ah > > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". -- ah
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:53
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:53
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ah wrote: > Holly wrote: > > ah wrote: > >> Holly wrote: > >> > ah wrote: > >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > >> >> > > >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. > >> >> > > >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > >> >> > > >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > >> >> > > >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > >> >> > thought." > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " > >> >> > > >> >> > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > >> >> > Earth." > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > >> >> > > >> >> > Now this is exciting! > >> >> > >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > >> > > >> > > >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > >> > complexity? > >> > >> Standard deviation, I guess. > >> > >> > · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> > >> > >> Filth! > >> -- > >> ah > > > > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? > > It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." Well you did poorly on that question. Here is question number two. Have you ever killed your own food? ~~ Dear Dr. Perelman, Since you have not come out of hiding, the topic of this tread has shifted to other interesting matters. May the spirit of Archimedes be with you.
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: ah
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:45
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:45
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Holly wrote: > ah wrote: >> Holly wrote: >> > ah wrote: >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> > ah wrote: >> >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory >> >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved >> >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincar� >> >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind >> >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into >> >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's >> >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is >> >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with >> >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they >> >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human >> >> >> > thought." >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Poincar�'s conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain >> >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without >> >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is >> >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "In effect, what Poincar� suggested was that anything without holes >> >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" >> >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it >> >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction >> >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, >> >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the >> >> >> > Earth." >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Now this is exciting! >> >> >> >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time >> >> > complexity? >> >> >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. >> >> >> >> > � DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> >> >> >> >> Filth! >> >> -- >> >> ah >> > >> > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? >> >> It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". > > I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I > have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my > head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my > body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems > to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite > agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." Sick! > > Well you did poorly on that question. But, my body holds no favo(u)rites! > Here is question number two. > Have you ever killed your own food? No. -- ah
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19
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ah wrote: > Holly wrote: > > ah wrote: > >> Holly wrote: > >> > ah wrote: > >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> > ah wrote: > >> >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > >> >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > >> >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > >> >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > >> >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > >> >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > >> >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > >> >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > >> >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > >> >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > >> >> >> > thought." > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > >> >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > >> >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > >> >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > >> >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > >> >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > >> >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > >> >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > >> >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > >> >> >> > Earth." > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Now this is exciting! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > >> >> > complexity? > >> >> > >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. > >> >> > >> >> > · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> > >> >> > >> >> Filth! > >> >> -- > >> >> ah > >> > > >> > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? > >> > >> It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". > > > > I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I > > have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my > > head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my > > body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems > > to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite > > agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." > > Sick! A knee-jerk reaction? > > > > Well you did poorly on that question. > > But, my body holds no favo(u)rites! Ah ... "crepuscular melange." > > > Here is question number two. > > Have you ever killed your own food? > > No. I take it that you are not a redneck. Well done, on question numbered 'two.'
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Michael Baldwin, Bruce
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:38
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:38
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Holly wrote: > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! Quit yer grinnin' and drop yer linen. > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > conjecture, about the nature of space. > > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > thought." > > > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > equivalent to a sphere. " > > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > Earth." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > Now this is exciting! This just doesn't add up.
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: ah
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:15
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:15
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Holly wrote: > ah wrote: >> Holly wrote: >> > ah wrote: >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> > ah wrote: >> >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> >> > ah wrote: >> >> >> >> Holly wrote: >> >> >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory >> >> >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved >> >> >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincar� >> >> >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind >> >> >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into >> >> >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's >> >> >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is >> >> >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with >> >> >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they >> >> >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human >> >> >> >> > thought." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Poincar�'s conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain >> >> >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without >> >> >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is >> >> >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "In effect, what Poincar� suggested was that anything without holes >> >> >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" >> >> >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it >> >> >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction >> >> >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, >> >> >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the >> >> >> >> > Earth." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Now this is exciting! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time >> >> >> > complexity? >> >> >> >> >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. >> >> >> >> >> >> > � DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> >> >> >> >> >> >> Filth! >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ah >> >> > >> >> > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? >> >> >> >> It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". >> > >> > I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I >> > have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my >> > head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my >> > body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems >> > to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite >> > agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." >> >> Sick! > > A knee-jerk reaction? It's not in my genes. > >> > >> > Well you did poorly on that question. >> >> But, my body holds no favo(u)rites! > > Ah ... "crepuscular melange." What can I say about my poly-morphic Zen pleasure machine? I like it all! > >> >> > Here is question number two. >> > Have you ever killed your own food? >> >> No. > > I take it that you are not a redneck. So, it's so. > > Well done, on question numbered 'two.' I'm moved. -- ah
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:17
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:17
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ah wrote: > Holly wrote: > > ah wrote: > >> Holly wrote: > >> > ah wrote: > >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> > ah wrote: > >> >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> >> > ah wrote: > >> >> >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > >> >> >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > >> >> >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > >> >> >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > >> >> >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > >> >> >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > >> >> >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > >> >> >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > >> >> >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > >> >> >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > >> >> >> >> > thought." > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > >> >> >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > >> >> >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > >> >> >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > >> >> >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > >> >> >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > >> >> >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > >> >> >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > >> >> >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > >> >> >> >> > Earth." > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Now this is exciting! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > >> >> >> > complexity? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Filth! > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> ah > >> >> > > >> >> > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? > >> >> > >> >> It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". > >> > > >> > I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I > >> > have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my > >> > head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my > >> > body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems > >> > to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite > >> > agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." > >> > >> Sick! > > > > A knee-jerk reaction? > > It's not in my genes. > > > > >> > > >> > Well you did poorly on that question. > >> > >> But, my body holds no favo(u)rites! > > > > Ah ... "crepuscular melange." > > What can I say about my poly-morphic Zen pleasure machine? > > I like it all! > > > > >> > >> > Here is question number two. > >> > Have you ever killed your own food? > >> > >> No. > > > > I take it that you are not a redneck. > > So, it's so. > > > > > Well done, on question numbered 'two.' > > I'm moved. > -- he-he~
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Holly
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:19
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:19
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Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote: > Holly wrote: > > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > > Quit yer grinnin' and drop yer linen. > > > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > > conjecture, about the nature of space. > > > > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > > > > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > > > > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > > thought." > > > > > > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > > equivalent to a sphere. " > > > > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > > Earth." > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > > > Now this is exciting! > > This just doesn't add up. You need more than ten digits -- use a calculator.
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Michael Baldwin, Bruce
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:31
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:31
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Holly wrote: > Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote: > > Holly wrote: > > > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > > > > Quit yer grinnin' and drop yer linen. > > > > > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > > > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > > > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > > > conjecture, about the nature of space. > > > > > > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > > > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > > > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > > > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > > > > > > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > > > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > > > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > > > > > > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > > > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > > > thought." > > > > > > > > > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > > > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > > > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > > > equivalent to a sphere. " > > > > > > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > > > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > > > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > > > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > > > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > > > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > > > Earth." > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > > > > > Now this is exciting! > > > > This just doesn't add up. > > You need more than ten digits -- use a calculator. Why when I can simply add some more columns to my abacus.
Re: Come out! Come out! Wherever you are Dr. Perelman!
Author: Michael Baldwin, Bruce
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:32
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:32
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ah thole wrote: > Holly wrote: > > ah wrote: > >> Holly wrote: > >> > ah wrote: > >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> > ah wrote: > >> >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> >> > ah wrote: > >> >> >> >> Holly wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Put down your socks and get ready to get yer priZe! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "Three years ago, a Russian mathematician by the name of Grigory > >> >> >> >> > Perelman, a k a Grisha, in St. Petersburg, announced that he had solved > >> >> >> >> > a famous and intractable mathematical problem, known as the Poincaré > >> >> >> >> > conjecture, about the nature of space. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > After posting a few short papers on the Internet and making a whirlwind > >> >> >> >> > lecture tour of the United States, Dr. Perelman disappeared back into > >> >> >> >> > the Russian woods in the spring of 2003, leaving the world's > >> >> >> >> > mathematicians to pick up the pieces and decide if he was right. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Now they say they have finished his work, and the evidence is > >> >> >> >> > circulating among scholars in the form of three book-length papers with > >> >> >> >> > about 1,000 pages of dense mathematics and prose between them. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > As a result there is a growing feeling, a cautious optimism that they > >> >> >> >> > have finally achieved a landmark not just of mathematics, but of human > >> >> >> >> > thought." > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Poincaré's conjecture: "It asserts that if any loop in a certain > >> >> >> >> > kind of three-dimensional space can be shrunk to a point without > >> >> >> >> > ripping or tearing either the loop or the space, the space is > >> >> >> >> > equivalent to a sphere. " > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "In effect, what Poincaré suggested was that anything without holes > >> >> >> >> > has to be a sphere. The one qualification was that this "anything" > >> >> >> >> > had to be what mathematicians call compact, or closed, meaning that it > >> >> >> >> > has a finite extent: no matter how far you strike out in one direction > >> >> >> >> > or another, you can get only so far away before you start coming back, > >> >> >> >> > the way you can never get more than 12,500 miles from home on the > >> >> >> >> > Earth." > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/science/15math.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Now this is exciting! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Considering the intractable n=7, it's no surprise. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Intractable because it could take forever? Deterministic? A time > >> >> >> > complexity? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Standard deviation, I guess. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > · DTIME(T(n)) = ... <scratch n sniff> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Filth! > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> ah > >> >> > > >> >> > What part of your body do you scratch N sniff? > >> >> > >> >> It may be more time-wise to ask "Which part do you not...". > >> > > >> > I thought you'd have a favorite part. After I workout, especially if I > >> > have been in the sun, I like to run my hands through my hair (on my > >> > head) then smell my fingers. I do not scratch and sniff most of my > >> > body: par exemple, my feet or my derriere and the odor of breasts seems > >> > to escape me. Do breasts exude their own parfume? Of course, I quite > >> > agree that everyone who has one would scratch n sniff their "Africa." > >> > >> Sick! > > > > A knee-jerk reaction? > > It's not in my genes. What about in your jeans? > >> > Well you did poorly on that question. > >> > >> But, my body holds no favo(u)rites! > > > > Ah ... "crepuscular melange." > > What can I say about my poly-morphic Zen pleasure machine? > > I like it all! > > > > >> > >> > Here is question number two. > >> > Have you ever killed your own food? > >> > >> No. > > > > I take it that you are not a redneck. > > So, it's so. Ah so. > > Well done, on question numbered 'two.' > > I'm moved. Bowel motions are like that.
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