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RahatMan wrote:

> And thus God is just a theory.

 RAEL: - EVIDENCE OR COINCIDENCE?

<http://www.rael.org>

Albert Einstein is remembered for saying: "Great spirits have always
encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".  So, with that
in mind, examine the following points, and do your own research to check
their validity.

Intelligence, comes from the word "inter -lingere" or inter-connect. The
gathering of information and storing it in our brain, for which
university degrees are awarded, is no guarantee of intelligence.  However,
the ability to interconnect different things to each other,
indicates intelligence.  - I will try to layout a series of points in an
"intelligent " fashion:

PART 2 OF 3

(Part 3 of 3 to be posted in one week)
(Part 1 of 3 was posted one week ago, check <http://www.dejanews.com/>,
search for "Raelian" under author Nova)

Cont'd

10. All our oil reserves on earth, if the continents are pushed together to
form one land mass are found along the perimeter of a large circle see web
site
<http://www.rael.org/>
file URL <http://www.rael.org/English/e-digest/realmsgindex.html>
The following are two paragraphs extracted from the article by Marcel
Terrusse (Chem. Eng.) entitled "A New Hypothesis for the History of
Humanity"
"When the CIA, Central Intelligence of America, gave the Hudson Institute
the task of studying the world distribution of natural resources such as
petrol, gas and coal, professor Nehring who was put in charge, discovered a
rather strange phenomenon. He put together the continents as they would
have been at the end of the geological tertiary period before they split
up, and found that all the main oil springs such as those in the Arctic and
Alaska, the asphalt sands of Alberta, the bitumen schists of Colorado,
Mexico and Venezuela, the heavy oils of Orenoc, Nigeria, South Sahara,
Libya, Arabia, Iran and Siberia all formed a circle. Present studies on
petrol reveal that it is the result of what used to be living organisms,
such as plants, animals etc., which have decomposed in anaerobic
conditions, that is to say in the absence of air, where special bacteria
reduce and transform their proteins and fats. Dead trees are the main
source of these proteins and fats but what usually happens when one of them
dies is that normal air breathing bacteria decompose it and recycle it into
the forest food chain without producing any petrol, so for the above to
occur the tree must be buried straight away to prevent access of air. But
when oil fields are examined one finds that they are extremely deep (2000
meters deep in northern France) and cover considerable areas (18000 Km in
the Appalaches USA) so the actual volume of material which must have been
brutally buried all in one go was enormous. No theory up to now can
satisfactorily account for these facts, but we Raelians hold the key to
this enigma . When the Elohim decided to destroy their bases, their
laboratories and all that they had created on earth, they must have had to
use extremely powerful methods of destruction, which as well as breaking up
this original one continent and sending each respective fragment drifting
outwards from the center of shock, must also have swept the whole land
surface. Since the shock waves will have spread outwards from the bomb's
point of impact, all the living matter including immense forests, animals
and even man would have been blown by this and buried deep immediately and
all together under tons of earth in a ring shape, circling the central
explosion.

11. A Crop circle was found at Cheesefoot Head, Wilshire, England, Aug
1990, which resembles closely to the detailed plan of the
Embassy to be built for Elohim,  given to Rael in 1975.
CSETI investigation into Crop circles in England; confirmed frequent UFO
sightings and even recorded UFO sounds during their field
work there. Relatively few crop circles are fake.

12. From: dique@primenet.com (Richard W. Kimball)
"American Indian Prophecies Confirm The Reality Of Flying Saucers", by
Rchard W. Kimball
Reporter at the Daily Courier Prescott, Arizona
Date: Sun, 24 Dec., 1995 18:11:32 -0700 (MST)
    An old American Indian rock carving near Mishongnovi, Arizona
accurately describes the existence of flying saucers and space travel,
according to a Hopi Indian leader. In the summer of 1970, the late Chief
Dan Katchongva, in the company of his counselor Ralph
Tawangyawma and interpreter Caroline Tawangyawma, went to the city of
Prescott to learn more about the rash of UFOs recently seen in
that area.
   The residents of that central Arizona community said they saw hundreds
of flying saucers in the night sky over the city for more than two weeks
prior to the Hopi leader's arrival. Katchongva, who died in 1972, said he
believed the sightings were intimately connected to Hopi prophecy. The
traditional Hopi chieftain has long been interested in UFOs because he
believed they were a part of Hopi religious beliefs.
   UFO researcher and former Prescott resident Paul Solem said the
existence of the saucers justified an old Hopi prophecy that a "Day of
Purification" was soon to arrive. It would be a day when all wicked people
and wrong-doers would be punished or destroyed.

13. Just a month before the second Korean Seminar, scheduled for
1995.10.7., when the preparation team was busily running about, in
Chongpyong about 50 km north-east of Seoul, Elohim showed their full
support for the upcoming seminar. - This exert was taken from
the Raelian Religion magazine "Apocalypse" issue No. 101. Via Internet, you
can find the following exert confirming this event:
"UFO videotaped in South Korea "From: Brian Zeiler
(bdzeiler@students.wisc.edu), Agence France Presse
October 17, 1995 03:50 Eastern Time
SECTION: International news
HEADLINE:  UFO  formation said to be filmed by South Korean TV cameraman
Footage purportedly showing unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in formation
was aired on an evening primetime television newscast
Monday that riveted viewers across South Korea. The film, allegedly taken
on September 4, by a local cable television cameraman north
of Seoul, showed a clear image of white, luminous saucer-shaped objects
flying in formation against a blue sky.
   The footage, aired for four minutes and 44 seconds, showed a big
brilliant cluster comprising 10 small saucers that flew in parallel, in a
vertical formation. "The flying objects were accidentally taken by my TV
camera, while I was on a trip to scout out locations," Lee
Hee-Hong, 33, a cameraman for Kangwon Cable News, said in a televised
interview shown with his film.
   Kang said he had been reluctant to publicize the film for fear of
ridicule. MBC television said it was the first  UFO  film footage taken in
South Korea and shown unedited. Kang said the  UFO  film was taken in
Kapyong (should read Chonpyong), some 50 kilometers (30
miles) northeast of Seoul, the same place where a newspaper photographer
allegedly took a picture of what  UFO  experts described as a typical
flying saucer on September 3.
   That photograph, taken by Kim Sun-Kyu of the Seoul newspaper MunhwaIlbo,
was selected as one of the nation's best five news
pictures for September by an association of South Korean photographers. In
the first week of September,  UFOs  were witnessed by many people in the
area, newspapers said, although scientists remained skeptical about the
alleged sightings.  - Coincidence?

14. Rael says that he was given a "message for humanity by Elohim", which
makes him a "messenger". This is the word Rael uses to
describe himself. Webster dictionary defines Messiah = leader or deliverer
of Jews, whose coming was prophesied in the Torah. "Rael"
being the name given to Claude Verilhon by Elohim is clearly part of the
word "Is-rael", the Jewish state. We should also note that in 1979
five Rabbis (Israel Abou Khatzira, Mordekhai Shaaradi, Haberstamm, Menachem
Scheerson, and Grand Rabbi Ouadia Yossef) were reported in an Israeli
newspaper article to have had the same dream. In that dream they were told
that the Messiah, the Jewish people were
waiting for, is already present on Earth. Rael explained that this dream
was induced by Elohim via telepathy in his letter on  Dec. 31,
1979, addressed to these Rabbis and the presidents of Israel and Egypt. At
this occasion he requested the  granting or sale of a small parcel of land
for the building of the Embassy for Elohim, in or near Jerusalem. Elohim's
protection, which Jews have enjoyed thus far would only continue if the
Embassy was built as requested.  Rael also says that the country, where the
Embassy will be build, will enjoy "a
flourishing future and become the spiritual and scientific center of the
planet for millennia to come".

The Jews are still waiting for a "Messiah" and if what Rael says is true,
this would certainly make him a "deliverer of Jews". In 1993 a
Committee of Inquiry in Israel looked into this matter and decided to allow
the Raelian Religion to exist in Israel. Soon thereafter in
September 1993 the elusive Peace Treaty with Palestine was signed. -
Coincidence?

In November 1993 another official request for a parcel of land to build the
Embassy was given to the Israeli Prime Minister. This request is still
being thought about by the authorities in Israel. During the summer of
1996, UFO's were visiting Israel with great frequency. Shortly after Rael
asked the Israeli government to give him an answer regarding the building
of the Embassy. It appeared that Elohim were trying to encourage Israel to
grant Rael's request for the building of their Embassy in or near
Jerusalem, submitted many years ago. -  In their story, see exerts below,
the newspaper Ma'ariv listed 16 recent UFO incidents in Israel: "Hovering
UFO Causes Traffic Jam in Tel Aviv"
         At 2 a.m. on Tuesday, September 17, 1996, traffic on High Road in
the Ramat Aviv section of Tel Aviv, Israel came to a sudden stop as
motorists abandoned their cars to watch a hovering UFO. Tel Aviv police
received dozens of calls about a "light-emitting UFO" doing aerial loops
over the northern end of the city. According to the daily newspaper
Ma'ariv, police spokesman Gadi Doron said officers reported seeing "a
strange light in the night sky," along with hundreds of motorists at the
scene.
      As the onlookers watched, a soldier of the Border Police offered to
shoot at the object. Other members of the crowd disagreed
vehemently. One woman said, "What are you trying to do? Start an
interstellar war?" About an hour before dawn, the UFO stopped "doing
tricks" and headed east, parallel to the Avenue Shaul
Hamelech. Enthusiastic motorists attempted to follow in their cars. Then
the UFO reversed direction, flew back to Ramat Aviv and
gradually disappeared.

Web Site for Vendyl Jones Research Institutes!
<http://www.vendyljones.org.il/>  - On this site you will find
archaeological discoveries, which are very interesting in that they
continue to confirm the Torah (Old Testament of the Bible). The following
are exerts from this web sites.
      "We hope to bring you exciting new discoveries in the area of
Biblical Archaeology. Informative articles will educate you.
Opportunities for tours and travel will be presented. Thought-provoking
ideas challenge you."
Mr. Jones was able to obtain the digging permit in March 1998 to continue
with his archaeological pursuits using the Torah as his "Road
Map", but not without difficulties; he writes: "Thanks to our friend, Natan
Mor. He has worked full-time, day and night since February, to
put us in a very strong legal position so that they could not refuse to
give us the right to continue our excavations. That does not mean
though, that it was not a harsh, struggling battle. Many years have passed,
with much blood, sweat, and tears shed since we found the
Holy Incense in 1992 We succeeded only to be stopped two days later by the
Israel Antiquities Authority [IAA] when they withdrew our permit. Since
then, our drama has been The "Raiders Of The Lost Permit," rather than the
Raiders Of The Lost Ark. - Our new license is
valid until December 31, 1998."
     Then Mr. Jones talks about the bureaucrats involved in issuing this
digging permit: "Their real motive became very clear. They would only issue
the license if the name of "Vendyl Jones" was removed from the permit. I
knew that they could never give me a permit in my name after all the
slander and libel they had spread against me. I happily agreed! This work
has never really been in my name. It has been in the Name of HaShem. We
only want to continue the work that began 31 years ago in Israel. "I want
that mountain!", said Caleb to Joshua.  We have no grudge against those
that have delayed and opposed our work. In actuality, we understand they
have opposed us for two reasons. Were we in their position, we might oppose
us too. At the taproot, they fear we might actually find those things for
which we are searching. Growing out of that root of fear is a large trunk
having many long political branches, theological branches, religious
branches and anti-religious branches There are even tiny individual
personal twigs that fear they might be cut or trimmed away should the glory
of the G-d of Israel be again manifest. The second reason they have opposed
us, unbeknown to them, is that they too are the servants of HaShem. Oh, how
many thousands of times I have said: "In G-d's time He will reveal all
these things." Had we not experienced the strong opposition that we have
received since 1992, we would have broken into that "tomb under the spices"
in 1993 and returned all of the true inheritance to the people of Israel.
Then in turn, all the Jewish people could return to their inheritance of
the Land of Israel."
    Hindsight being 20 / 20 Mr. Jones asks:  "IS DESTINY A MIRACLE OR A
NORM?
1993 was the year of the Madrid Conference that ended at Oslo. Not just the
PLO, but the whole world is determined to deprive Israel of
their true inheritance. Perhaps, HaShem foresaw it more befitting to return
these sacred treasures to Israel five years later than we had
planned. Perhaps, it is not perchance, that G-d, the Just Judge, prejudged
according to the Torah, that the Ashes of the Red Cow and
Tabernacle, the Heritage of Israel, should only be returned in Israel's
50th year. This is the first Jubilee of the Third Commonwealth of
Israel. As the late, [Blessed be his memory] Rav Sholomo Goren, the Chief
Rabbi of Israel told our team in 1982: "If you people find the
Ashes of the Red Cow, all the Jews in the world will return to Israel.
There will not be any more Reformed Jews, there will not be any
more Conservative Jews, and there will not even be any more Orthodox Jews.
The day you find the Ashes of the Red Cow, our traditional prayer book will
be obsolete. We will all be one Am Yisrael [the people of Israel]. G-d will
give us all a heart of flesh, in the place of a heart of stone. Today, He
has given all of us hearts of stone so that each of us can experience great
change when we are cleansed by the sprinkling of the water of purification.
We will have no rest or peace from our enemies outside, until we have rest
and peace from inside ourselves. I pray G-d will reward your dedicated
efforts. There are only a few of us who can grasp the great importance of
what you wonderful people are doing."

"WHOSE LAND IS ISRAEL ?" by  Vendyl Jones
(<http://www.vendyljones.org.il/hills.htm>)

    "While getting a new clutch installed on our Ford pick-up in Petach
Tiqvah, the garage accountant, wearing a kippa, noticed the B'nai
No'ach bumper sticker and asked, "What is B'nai No'ach?" - ("Sons of Noah"
= "B'nai No'ach"; every man on earth today is a direct
descendant of one of the three sons of Noah)
"You are a religious Jew and you have to ask me 'what is B'nai No'ach?'"
"I know what is B'nai No'ach, but I want to know what B'nai No'ach is to
you."
In a few words I gave him an answer that satisfied him. Then, he asked,
"Who do you think this Land of Israel belongs to, the Jews or the Arabs?"
"This Land belongs neither to the Jews nor the Arabs. I have a title deed
here that shows to whom it belongs." I took out a photograph of
the above satellite image and pointed out the perfect Hebrew words
"Ki-Luz-HaShem-Efraiyim." (see
<http://www.vendyljones.org.il/hillspic.htm>)
The accountant was aghast. "How did you make that?" he inquired.
When I had to explain that these were just the shadows of the mountains and
that the words were written there since the creation, he was dumbfounded.
He took the picture and showed it to everyone in the garage.

These words can stand alone or have a combination of connotations. The
point is that the shadows form Ki, meaning because or for the
sake of. Luz can mean to turn, to coil, (= spiral = space time continuum?,
= DNA helix?) to bend or to twist. Luz is also the name of the top
vertebrae of the spine, sometimes called the "resurrection bone" because it
remains even after all the other bones of a body have decomposed. Luz was
the name of the place where Jacob had his vision of the ladder reaching
into heaven [Genesis 28:18-19]. Jacob called the same place Beth-El. The
name Luz is formed in the shadows precisely over the location of
present-day Beth-El. Beside and just north of Jerusalem, is that majestic,
holy, ineffable, unutterable Name of HaShem, YHVH. - Coincidental is it
not?

   "Rather, only at THE PLACE that HaShem, your G-d, will choose from among
all your tribes TO PLACE HIS NAME shall you seek
out His presence and come there." [Deuteronomy 12:5] This commandment was
given to Moses 449 years before the Shechinah filled the Holy House of
Solomon in Jerusalem.
    Yet, etched forever in the hills and valleys just north of Jerusalem is
the name of HaShem, YHVH, existing there since the day of
creation. Although the name of HaShem was forever written there, no one has
ever noticed His name inscribed there until our generation.
Living in the space age, HaShem has granted us the privilege of looking
down upon the earth from HIS perspective and seeing the
spectacular marvels of HIS creation.
    Were this, the holy name of YHVH, the only inscription seen on the
ridges in the land of Israel, one might say that was sufficient.
Dayenu! At that moment each day, in HaShem's time, the quill of the sun
dips silently into the inkwell of shadows between the hills and
inscribes that unspeakable name YHVH on the face of the earth. "The rocks
cry out! The hills clap their hands! They leap like lambs! They
shout together!" Yet, all their sounds are inaudible and imperceptible to
the deaf ears of mankind.
    The final word seen by the satellite imagery is Efraiyim, or Ephraim.
It appears at the lower left, below YHVH. Just as Luz is located exactly
over present-day Beth-El, which was originally called Luz, the name of
Ephraim begins precisely where the borders between Benjamin and Judah on
the south and Ephraim on the North were located. Ephraim is the name
designating the ten northern tribes that broke away under Rehoboam. The
Holy Name of the G-d of Israel forever rests between the northern and
southern kingdoms. They had forsaken Him, but He never forsook them." -
Coincidence?


Origins Of Man:

Rael says that human beings were "created scientifically, by an advanced
civilization, called Elohim using their mastery of DNA, about 13000 years
ago"

1. "Footprints of the Gods" a book written by Graham Hancock, among other
things, we find a sound logical and scientific explanations,
for why the Sphinx with the three pyramids in the Giza plateau is actually
a minimum of 12500 years old. Furthermore, the civilization
that  built it, was more technologically advanced than we are today. We
were, according to the Old Testament, "created in Elohim's image"
(those who came from the sky / stars). Is it an accident that the Sphinx is
looking at "its own stellar constellation image" (of a lion), and is
specifying a date of about 13000 years ago. The alignment of the Sphinx and
the lion in the stars is no longer accurate today, but with computers,
backing up in time and allowing for the precession of the earth's axis (a
26000 year cycle), we arrive at a date of about 13000 years ago, when this
alignment was precise. "Why did someone, more advanced than ourselves,
freeze this date in time on our planet  Earth", questions the author. - All
this is a very recent discovery, the book's edition is 1996.

2. Several books have been printed that claim signs of design exist on our
DNA level. "Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge
to Evolution" by Michael J. Behe, 1996. The Free Press (Simon & Schuster),
307 pages $25.00 (hard cover) book written by a non-Creationist, who says
the structure in nature is too sophisticated for it to have come about in a
random; by design being the only other
alternative. "Who designed nature", is a question left unanswered.

3. Another book called "Forbidden Archaeology" with recent scientific
archaeological evidence has undeniably thrown out the Darwinian
Theory of Evolution as a possible explanation of how we came into existence
on this earth. The evidence that human beings (identical
footprints to our own, - likely Elohim), walked on this earth in the same
epoch as dinosaurs, is undeniable. This book unfortunately does
accept the Carbon Dating, which makes certain very questionable assumptions
.

4. Carbon Dating may be severely flawed due to its underlying assumptions
of "Constancy that may not have existed". Let us examine the fundamentals
of Carbon Dating: In short, as a result of "cosmic radiation" a small
number of "atmospheric Nitrogen" nuclei are continuously being transformed
by neutron bombardment into radioactive nuclei of Carbon 14

    14                       14
  N    +  n    --->    C      +  p
     7                         6

Some of the radioactive Carbon atoms find their way into the living trees
and plants, in the form of Carbon Dioxide via photosynthesis.
When such trees or plants die or are cut, the photosynthesis stops and the
ratio of "radiocarbon" (C-14) to stable carbon (C-12) atoms
begins to fall (i.e. decay "exponentially").
It is this ratio of radiocarbon to stable carbon that can be measured and
"allows" the elapsed time since the tree stopped its photosynthesis (i.e.
its "death") to be calculated. This method has been "shown to give
consistent results for specimen up to some 40,000 years".

Read all this critically and nothing else needs to be said. To start with
the
a) intensity of Cosmic Radiation is assumed to be constant for whatever the
estimated years of the specimen may have been calculated to be.
Pretty strong assumption, would you not agree.
b) The atmosphere is assumed to be constant, i.e. Nitrogen, to Oxygen ratio
etc.
c) The exponential curve of the decay of C-14 and its half life is assumed
to be predictable. Yes, and under what underlying assumptions.  - Identical
atmospheric conditions as we had for the last 100 years? It is like knowing
one year's worth of data and having the audacity to insist on being able to
predict 400 years of forecast and not being wrong in the slightest.

Consider the atmosphere or lack of it, which presently exists on Mars and
how we plan to change all that within a short time span of 200
years. We will drastically alter all conditions, hardly conducive for
Carbon Dating, say 205 years from now.

5. Japanese geneticists' achievements with the transparency gene of the
fish  appears to be well known. However, Japanese geneticists
also very recently (about 1996) discovered that all humanity (including all
races) came from a small gene pool of 13000 years ago?

6. There is a  recent linguists' discovery that all languages on earth come
from the same common root i.e. a single original language?


To be continued, ......
(look for part 3 of 3 to be posted in one week)

Please visit the official Raelian Religion's website at

<http://www.rael.org/>

and not some third party's opinionated distortion and also pick up the
books written by Rael, especially the one entitled "The Final
Message".


CONCLUSION:

Rael wrote down "The Final Message" in 1973 and also said that science will
keep confirming him right as we advance our understanding.
     That is exactly what has been happening, and is now happening at an
accelerating pace. Rael is taking great risks to his personal
well-being, living a modest life, in order to help humanity. He sustains
himself from the royalties of the book sales, he has written.
Everyone in the Raelian Religion, including Rael is volunteering his/her
time and efforts. All financial contributions are used for a)
expenses incurred during spreading of Elohim's Message, and b) the building
fund for the Embassy.

In the remote possibility that all of the above are coincidences and not
evidence, and that Rael's wisdom and insights have nothing to do
with Elohim, is the "side-effect" of building the Embassy, that of
achieving world peace and harmony among all humanity, not worthy of all of
us supporting Rael?

Regards,
Nova
<http://www.rael.org/>

P.S.:
I must thank Mr. Josh Olaf, 'President of Raelian Movement Resistance', Mr.
Blue Resonant Human, and Mr. Tallyman, for their tireless attacks on the
Raelian Religion. If it wasn't for their ridiculous distortions and
attacks, I would not have found the time and energy to write the above
article. I hope you found it interesting and informative.