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(This is the second in a 17,432-part series that is
re-posting the commentary of one Ed Conrad, now currently mentally
incapacitated after selling his brain
on eBay.)
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    WHAT CHARLIE DARWIN REALLY SAID...
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As you all know, there's currently a heated debate
in the sci news groups about what Charles Darwin really
said about the evolution of the eye.
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It's time this matter is cleared up -- simply and concisely
-- once and for all.
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Actually, I thought I had ended all the confusion back on
Saturday, May 11, 1996, when a pseudo named Michael
Clark accused me of misquoting Darwin. He had the balls to say I used
only a portion of Darwin's quote.
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Here's what I wrote:
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``To suppose that the eye (with so many parts all working
together) . . . could have been formed by natural selection seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
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Here's what Charles Darwin actually said:
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"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said
that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense
of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox
populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in
science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple
and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist,
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> (Wake me when it's over) Z Z Z Z Z Z Z z z z z z z . . .
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each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly
the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations
be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such
variations should be useful to any animal under changing
conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that
a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural
selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be
considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be
sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself
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originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest
organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of
perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive
elements in their barcode should become aggregated and developed into
nerves, endowed with this special sensibility."
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I thought I said what Darwin had said but David Ian Greig
of talk.origins said what I said wasn't what Darwin really  said
because he said Darwin had more to say than what I said he had said,
then Steve Vickers of the UK butts in and says HE knows what Darwin
really said, claiming what I said he had said wasn't what Darwin
really had said, so I said, 'Okay, I'll say what they say about what
Darwin really said, since I suppose that this is indeed what he had
said, even though I really don't know for sure if he had said it, but
this is what they say he had said."
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<< Nice little song and dance, there, Zippy. Can you
<< balance  a ball on your nose?      -- Michael Clark
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Up your's, Bumblebrain!
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Folks, please excuse the rude interruption!
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Actually, it really doesn't matter what Darwin had said
or what these fellas said he had said -- or what they say
I said or didn't say about what he said or didn't say --
since what I said, whether Darwin said it or not, isn't
something that really needed to be said. Perhaps Darwin
said what they say he had said because he felt he had to
say it -- he certainly was entitled to say what he wanted
to say. But by saying what they say he had said, he actually said more
than he needed to say, so maybe he didn't have to say what he said.
'Course, IF Darwin did say what these fellas said he had said, critics
could later say Charlie had nothing to say even though he had said
it.
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Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com
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TRUTH VS. MONUMENTAL LIE OF MAN'S EVOLUTION
(Fossils -- SOME HUMAN -- Found Between Coal Veins)
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/FINGERSx.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/OldestHumanSkull.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/z11calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/skullb.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/z8femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/FOSSILS08/HumanFemur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/TestResults.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Skullx.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Skully,jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/SkullBoulderSide.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/GallBladder1.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/GallBladder2.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/FirstDiscovery.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/HumanBrain.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/newtibia.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/zedjaw.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/HumanJaw3.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/OldestTool.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/MoreFossils.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate3.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate2.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate11.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Fetus8.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Scorpion.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/PetrifiedPP.jpg
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HOW SCIENCE KAYOS PSUEDOSCIENCE
   Three Cheers for Lin Liangtai of Taiwan
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Liangtai's Web Site
http://groups.google.com/group/idfossil?hl=en
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CALVARIUM REPORT
http://groups.google.com/group/idfossil/web/new-calvarium-article?hl=en
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FEMUR REPORT
http://groups.google.com/group/idfossil/web/femur-article?hl=en
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V-SHAPED COAL VEINS
     (Where mind-boggling, evolution-destroying fossils were
discovered)
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472383101&p=61
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472392315&p=62
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472383097&p=63
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Article 1 of the 17,432-part series
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ED CONRAD GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.geology/msg/beff4f55ac10acd5
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