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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> technological
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >advancement
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >government's ability
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >without
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> court
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >approval
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >voted on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >full
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >approved
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> SB2453,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >National
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>committee's
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >concert with
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>White
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >House.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >measures,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>including
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >one
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >few senators
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >be
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >bill,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >which
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >rebuffs
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but declares
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>warrantless
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >right
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>wiretap
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Attorney
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> General
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Americans so
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> long
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >suspected
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>terrorists
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >or
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >spies.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >American
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Civil
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Liberties
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >wiretapping
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Americans
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Intelligence
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to not
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> only
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>get
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >FISA
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >but to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>actually,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >going
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >rights,"
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Graves
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >said.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Center
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >for
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Democracy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >committee
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> as
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >"light
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>president's
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >program
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >legislative
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>ratification
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >of the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >of Americans,"
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Dempsey
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >cleaners on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >even
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >domestic
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> defining
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >all
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >kinds of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not surveillance,"
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >said Dempsey.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> "festering
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>sore
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >on our
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it allows,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >but does
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> nor
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >require,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >program
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>review
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >by a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> submit
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >NSA
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >all
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >surveillance of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >with
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> FISA.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >But
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>an
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >aide
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >or the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>balance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >moves
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >law
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the aide,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >who
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> spoke
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >background.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Americans'
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >international
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court authorization,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >but says
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >program
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >other has
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>suspected
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >current
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >system
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >needs
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >judges
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>issue
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >warrants.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >program,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>have
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >come
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, without
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> sacrifice
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >our
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued individualized
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> warrants
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >for
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >content
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process,"
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Feinstein
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >said
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Wednesday
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >in a press release.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>federal
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >judge
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >lawsuits
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >across
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >country.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >The bill:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >catch the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>substance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >of a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >captures,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >phone
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>records,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >or
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >surveillance.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the attorney
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >general
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >authorize
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> "substantial
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >likelihood"
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be captured.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> government
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >unfettered
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >notification
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>for
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >15
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> congressional
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >restraint on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >president at
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >height,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >even
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> an
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >undeclared
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >one.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >government's
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >wartime
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> searches
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >period
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >limit
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> wiretapping
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >physical
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >president
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> has
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>that
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >power
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >designates,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >authorize
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>instant-messaging
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >systems
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >delete
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >anythi
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>ng
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >not
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >program to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >secretive
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >appointed by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>Chief
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >would
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> be
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>allowed
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >the courtroom.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> programs
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >whole,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >particular
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> persons
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>be
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Rep.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Heather
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Wilson
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >canceled.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >week by
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> voice
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>vote,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >ACLU's Graves.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Such a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for or
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >against
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>bill.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee....
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> In A Fascist
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Dictatorship:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to buy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> gallon
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>gas
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> after taxes.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars for
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> oil in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>middle
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >east
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> you're
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>the
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> US government
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> bank
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> who
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >backing
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> financing
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> your
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>house
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> the US
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>treasury,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >which
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> is bankrupt
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>> economy
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>buying
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> New American
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Century
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> eternity in
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> one
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> of
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>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> like the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>Katrina
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just gave
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> them a
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> tent
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>next
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >to
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> And....
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different goups?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right off!
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >Double-A
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead!
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald,
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> National Renewable
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> (303/384-6764;
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> fax:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> 303/384-6790).
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> Email:
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>YES...YES...YES...
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> energy needs
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> are
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops the
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> internet
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> instead
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly more
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> knowledgeable
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> than YOU.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> Really, kiddies.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> Hello, Alexa.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > eventually.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4 acre
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> lot on
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly distributed amongst my
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> children.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Thanks dad!
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>> I knew you were kooky.
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Hi, Ying!
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Hi Andrew!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> So, what's happ'nin?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > What's the dilly, yo?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Done gone down wif my yizzacks on de wanbone!
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> ah
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Are you still here?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am neither here, nor there.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> ah
>> >> >
>> >> > Be there!
>> >>
>> >> Now?
>> >> --
>> >> a "Bubba Ram Does" h
>> >
>> >
>> > He said "Be here".
>> >
>> > I said "Be there!"
>> >
>> > Way over there,....as far away as possible,....now!
>> 
>> No.
>> -- 
>> ah
> 
> 
> 
> Why are the elderly always negative?

It gets that way, after a while.

You'll see . . . .