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From: ah
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:22
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honestjohn wrote:
> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:459707d0$0$6293$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> honestjohn wrote:
>> > "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:45907175$0$25973$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> honestjohn wrote:
>> >> > "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:458faaa0$0$25963$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> >> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >> > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >> > news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >> >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >> >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >> >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >> >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn"
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing
> control
>> > to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding
> the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S.
>> > citizens
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday,
> and
>> > may
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary
> Committee
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter
> (R-Pennsylvania)
>> > in
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other
>> > surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California),
> one
>> > of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency
>> > program.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting
> another
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all
> but
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the
>> > U.S.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance
> of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to
>> > monitor
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for
>> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the
>> > Foreign
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans'
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the
> more
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's
> passage
>> > out
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting
> to
>> > rein
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just
> a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans,"
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its
>> > vacuum
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless
>> >> > surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President
> Bush
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a
>> > requirement
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically
>> > changes
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an
> update
>> > to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according
> to
>> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program
> monitors
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans'
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side
> or
>> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to
>> > believe
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the
>> > number
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the
>> >> > terrorist-surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be
> done,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more
>> > than
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only
> programs
>> > that
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any
> government
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of
> communications
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as
>> > there's
>> >> > no
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood"
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal
> law
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without
>> >> > warrants
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack
> of
>> > any
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably
> puts
>> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any
> time
>> > of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that
>> > limits
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping
> and
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that
> puts
>> > a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct
>> >> > warrantless
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current
> law,
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of
>> > war.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he
> or
>> > she
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as
> monitoring
>> >> > all
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government
>> >> > promises
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA
>> >> > surveillance
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of
> judges
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only
> government
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge
> the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday,
>> > but
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted
> upon
>> >> > next
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion,
> according
>> > to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who
> voted
>> > for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee....
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would
> Volunteer
>> > To
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just
>> > enough
>> >> > to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>> > wars
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
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> only
>> > to
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than
> the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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> a
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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> car
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
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>> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above
> plan
>> > for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend
> all
>> > of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots
> and a
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they
>> > just
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And....
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are
> out
>> > of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10
> different
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them
> right
>> >> > off!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat
> Humper!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl
> Osterwald,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790).
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your
>> > alternative
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which
> psyops
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people
>> > vastly
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you
> will
>> > die
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing
> my
>> > 1/4
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly
>> >> > distributed
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> My future.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Hello
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Hello
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> I don't know why
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> I sold the Dodge
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> So it had terrible ramifications?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You'll have to ask the other drivers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Can dead people speak?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sure.
>> >> >>
>> >> > "ah" is proof of that!
>> >>
>> >> You have no idea, Boy.
>> >>
>> > Glad to see you "came back" for just one more jab.
>>
>> I was in my Cups.
>>
> "C" cups, dad you've been taking the wrong hormones!

*plonk*
-- 
ah
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