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freedomtofascism.com wrote: > On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:45:55 -0500, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >>www.freedomtofascism.com wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:15:00 -0500, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>If you're an American, Brit or Israeli in the Cascaus you're considered a terrorist. >>> >>> November 20, 2006 >>> Conflict in the Caucasus >>> First battleground in the new Cold War? >>> >>> by Justin Raimondo >>> >>> As world attention is fixed on events in the Middle East, particularly the >>> continuing meltdown of the American occupation in Iraq, another crisis >>> brews. It is the coming showdown between the U.S. and Russia, centered in >>> the former Soviet republic of Georgia. Relations between Russia and Georgia, >>> never good, degenerated recently when members of Georgian opposition parties >>> were arrested, along with four Russian military officers, and charged with >>> espionage. The Russians retaliated by ending commercial ties, deporting >>> Georgians living in Russia, and closing the border. >>> >>> To begin with, a little context: when the Soviet empire imploded, the >>> various pieces were left to themselves, and in most cases the old Communist >>> elite merely reasserted itself in the form of a local autocracy. Eduard >>> Shevardnadze, the suave Soviet diplomat who served as the last Soviet >>> foreign minister, seized power in a coup against elected Georgian President >>> Zviad Gamsakhurdia and charmed the West into supporting his post-Soviet >>> dictatorship. Georgia was put on a path to NATO membership and became the >>> second largest per-capita recipient of U.S. aid – after Israel, of course – >>> but Shevardnadze didn't toe the line completely, so he had to go. "Shevvy," >>> as U.S. officials called him, lost out, as Gwynne Dyer notes, when he defied >>> Washington on a crucial matter: >>> >>> "When Shevardnadze signed a deal last year with the Russian gas giant >>> Gazprom, Washington went ballistic. Bush's energy adviser Steven Mann flew >>> in to warn Shevardnadze not to go ahead with the deal, Mikhail Saakashvili >>> denounced it – and Shevardnadze signed it anyway." >>> >>> With plenty of help from George Soros, Georgia's "Rose Revolution" gave >>> birth to the Saakashvili regime, which, like its predecessor, has >>> degenerated into outright repression: arrests of opposition leaders, the >>> closing of independent media outlets, harassment of political opponents – >>> all of this culminating in a demagogic campaign against a supposed >>> pro-Russian "fifth column" in the opposition ranks. The jails are filled >>> with Mikheil Saakashvili's critics, and human rights organizations confirm >>> that the bloom is long gone from the Rose Revolution. >>> >>> When a domestic crisis threatens the power of the leader at home, the >>> age-old solution is to provoke some foreign trouble to divert attention away >>> from the real problem and drum up support for the government. In Georgia, >>> this tactic means vowing, once again, to retake South Ossetia and Abkhazia – >>> two autonomous regions that have declared independence. Saakashvili's >>> defense minister recently boasted that Georgian troops will celebrate the >>> New Year in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia's capital city. >>> >>> In the case of South Ossetia, which recently voted overwhelmingly in a >>> referendum in favor of independence, the ethnic Russians who make up the >>> majority population of this region want reunification with Russia. They were >>> forcibly prevented from doing so until South Ossetian rebel forces drove out >>> Shevardnadze in the 1990s. Georgian efforts to bully the Ossetians are >>> supported by the Europeans, who have discounted the referendum results in >>> advance, and by such American bigwigs as Sen. John McCain, who visited >>> Tskhinvali in August, and used the occasion to declare: >>> >>> "Because there was not a direct response to our questions about why OSCE has >>> been blocked from doing its job; why there has been no progress on peace >>> initiatives from Georgia, from the UN, from the OSCE, from other >>> organizations – there has been no progress. I think that the attitude there >>> is best described by what you see by driving in [Tskhinvali]: a very large >>> billboard with a picture of Vladimir Putin on it, which says 'Vladimir Putin >>> Our President.' I do not believe that Vladimir Putin is now, or ever should >>> be, the president of sovereign Georgian soil." >>> >>> Is it really the role of a U.S. senator to decide what is and is not >>> "sovereign Georgian soil"? Surely there is a limit to even McCain's >>> arrogance. After all, the question of exactly where the boundaries of >>> post-Soviet states should be drawn in order to make some sense, and at the >>> same time ensure justice, is so incredibly complex that even experts on the >>> region come away perplexed. Yet here is McCain, sanctimoniously echoing the >>> rabidly nationalistic rhetoric of Saakashvili and his followers as if it >>> were undisputed fact. >>> >>> The rebellion of tiny Abkhazia is even more complex: the Abkhazians seek to >>> establish their own independent republic, and have resisted Georgian efforts >>> to reincorporate them into Georgia proper. Ethnic Abkhazians form a distinct >>> national minority within Georgia, with their own language, a long history – >>> Abkhazia is the ancient kingdom of Colchis, land of the Golden Fleece – and, >>> now, a functioning democracy that has clearly expressed the will of the >>> people. Yet no country anywhere recognizes Abkhazia, not even the Russians, >>> who are nevertheless championing their cause in a number of ways, including >>> issuing passports to Abkhazian (and Ossetian) nationals. >>> >>> A recently passed UN resolution clearly puts the onus on Georgia, which has >>> been the most belligerent party, to put an end to the conflict. The text >>> "once again urges the Georgian side to address seriously legitimate Abkhaz >>> security concerns, to avoid steps which could be seen as threatening, and to >>> refrain from militant rhetoric and provocative actions, especially in upper >>> Kodori valley." >>> >>> The Georgians have been aggressive of late, invading the disputed Kodori >>> Gorge and using it as a base from which to attack the Abkhazians. >>> Saakashvili and his government are clearly intent on provoking some sort of >>> conflict, and the only question is whether they will receive U.S. backing. >>> Recent statements by Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Fried, cited by the >>> Moscow Times as being "adamantly opposed to a military option on the part of >>> the Georgian government," cast doubt on the possibility, but with this >>> administration you never know. >>> >>> The anti-Russian rhetoric coming out of John McCain's mouth, dutifully >>> echoed by the White House, is not just talk. The playing of the "Great Game" >>> in Central Asia involves a U.S. strategy to lock the Russians out of the oil >>> bonanza and claim the area as an alternative source of energy, i.e., an >>> alternative to the Middle East. This may have something to do with why the >>> regime-changers have their sights set on the former Soviet Union, demonizing >>> Vladimir Putin as the alleged reincarnation of Joseph Stalin and targeting >>> Russia as a renewed threat to the West. >>> >>> The Russians are using the Ossetian and Abkhazian examples as counterpoints >>> to the recent suggestion by the Western occupiers of Kosovo that the >>> formerly Serbian province be granted formal independence. The Kosovars are >>> demanding it, and why, after all, did the U.S. and its European allies fight >>> a war to "liberate" Kosovo from the former Yugoslavia, anyway? Yet if Kosovo >>> deserves independence, then why not Abkhazia and South Ossetia? This riposte >>> is meant to stick in the craw of the Europeans, who have made a special >>> point of taking the Georgian side in this dispute. >>> >>> Russian "peacekeepers," OSCE "observers," South Ossetian troops, and the >>> U.S.-trained-and-equipped Georgian military are facing off along ill-defined >>> borders, with renegade "rebel" bands supporting one side or the other >>> running wild in the no-man's land in between. This is a recipe for disaster, >>> and an armed confrontation is bound to occur, with the distinct possibility >>> of escalating into all-out warfare. The Russians would soon be drawn in, and >>> the U.S. could not escape being dragged into this particular vortex – with >>> fateful consequences all 'round. >>> >>> I can just hear McCain barnstorming the country in '08, denouncing "Russian >>> imperialism" and demanding that we "stop Putin" in the Caucasus before >>> Russian troops cross the Bering Straits. >>> >>> Whether or not Abkhazia deserves independence, or South Ossetia should be >>> part of the Russian Federation, are questions that Washington should take no >>> position on, because no legitimate American interests are involved. We have >>> no business meddling in Russia's "near abroad." We should, however, >>> recognize the de facto governments of these two breakaway regions, simply as >>> a matter of diplomatic convenience: we can't understand what is happening if >>> we don't have people on the ground. We should also use our considerable >>> leverage with Saakashvili to get him to back off: his inflammatory rhetoric >>> during Georgia's recent election campaign, and the statement by his defense >>> minister that Georgian troops would have a New Year's party in the capital >>> of South Ossetia, does not inspire much confidence. >>> >>> What seems like a small, obscure dispute could balloon into a major crisis >>> because of the stakes involved. The rising amount of U.S. aid to Georgia >>> greatly aids Saakashvili's military buildup: his belligerence begs for a >>> stern rebuke, perhaps an aid cutoff. It's time to rein in this would-be >>> Napoleon-of-the-steppes and nip Georgian imperialism in the bud – before it >>> destabilizes what is, after all, a volatile region. If John McCain, George >>> Soros, Anne Applebaum, and the usual neoconservative suspects have their >>> way, Georgia may be the first battleground of a revived Cold War. The >>> problem is that the conflict may turn hot with frightening swiftness. >>> >>> http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10043 >>> >>> >>> >> >>Retract these lies, immediately! >> >>The clock is ticking... > > It's much more fun 'coercing' the CIA into destroying Wall Street. As if . . . . -- ah
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