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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:45:55 -0500, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >www.freedomtofascism.com wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:15:00 -0500, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>If you're an American, Brit or Israeli in the Cascaus you're considered a terrorist. >> >> November 20, 2006 >> Conflict in the Caucasus >> First battleground in the new Cold War? >> >> by Justin Raimondo >> >> As world attention is fixed on events in the Middle East, particularly the >> continuing meltdown of the American occupation in Iraq, another crisis >> brews. It is the coming showdown between the U.S. and Russia, centered in >> the former Soviet republic of Georgia. Relations between Russia and Georgia, >> never good, degenerated recently when members of Georgian opposition parties >> were arrested, along with four Russian military officers, and charged with >> espionage. The Russians retaliated by ending commercial ties, deporting >> Georgians living in Russia, and closing the border. >> >> To begin with, a little context: when the Soviet empire imploded, the >> various pieces were left to themselves, and in most cases the old Communist >> elite merely reasserted itself in the form of a local autocracy. Eduard >> Shevardnadze, the suave Soviet diplomat who served as the last Soviet >> foreign minister, seized power in a coup against elected Georgian President >> Zviad Gamsakhurdia and charmed the West into supporting his post-Soviet >> dictatorship. Georgia was put on a path to NATO membership and became the >> second largest per-capita recipient of U.S. aid � after Israel, of course � >> but Shevardnadze didn't toe the line completely, so he had to go. "Shevvy," >> as U.S. officials called him, lost out, as Gwynne Dyer notes, when he defied >> Washington on a crucial matter: >> >> "When Shevardnadze signed a deal last year with the Russian gas giant >> Gazprom, Washington went ballistic. Bush's energy adviser Steven Mann flew >> in to warn Shevardnadze not to go ahead with the deal, Mikhail Saakashvili >> denounced it � and Shevardnadze signed it anyway." >> >> With plenty of help from George Soros, Georgia's "Rose Revolution" gave >> birth to the Saakashvili regime, which, like its predecessor, has >> degenerated into outright repression: arrests of opposition leaders, the >> closing of independent media outlets, harassment of political opponents � >> all of this culminating in a demagogic campaign against a supposed >> pro-Russian "fifth column" in the opposition ranks. The jails are filled >> with Mikheil Saakashvili's critics, and human rights organizations confirm >> that the bloom is long gone from the Rose Revolution. >> >> When a domestic crisis threatens the power of the leader at home, the >> age-old solution is to provoke some foreign trouble to divert attention away >> from the real problem and drum up support for the government. In Georgia, >> this tactic means vowing, once again, to retake South Ossetia and Abkhazia � >> two autonomous regions that have declared independence. Saakashvili's >> defense minister recently boasted that Georgian troops will celebrate the >> New Year in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia's capital city. >> >> In the case of South Ossetia, which recently voted overwhelmingly in a >> referendum in favor of independence, the ethnic Russians who make up the >> majority population of this region want reunification with Russia. They were >> forcibly prevented from doing so until South Ossetian rebel forces drove out >> Shevardnadze in the 1990s. Georgian efforts to bully the Ossetians are >> supported by the Europeans, who have discounted the referendum results in >> advance, and by such American bigwigs as Sen. John McCain, who visited >> Tskhinvali in August, and used the occasion to declare: >> >> "Because there was not a direct response to our questions about why OSCE has >> been blocked from doing its job; why there has been no progress on peace >> initiatives from Georgia, from the UN, from the OSCE, from other >> organizations � there has been no progress. I think that the attitude there >> is best described by what you see by driving in [Tskhinvali]: a very large >> billboard with a picture of Vladimir Putin on it, which says 'Vladimir Putin >> Our President.' I do not believe that Vladimir Putin is now, or ever should >> be, the president of sovereign Georgian soil." >> >> Is it really the role of a U.S. senator to decide what is and is not >> "sovereign Georgian soil"? Surely there is a limit to even McCain's >> arrogance. After all, the question of exactly where the boundaries of >> post-Soviet states should be drawn in order to make some sense, and at the >> same time ensure justice, is so incredibly complex that even experts on the >> region come away perplexed. Yet here is McCain, sanctimoniously echoing the >> rabidly nationalistic rhetoric of Saakashvili and his followers as if it >> were undisputed fact. >> >> The rebellion of tiny Abkhazia is even more complex: the Abkhazians seek to >> establish their own independent republic, and have resisted Georgian efforts >> to reincorporate them into Georgia proper. Ethnic Abkhazians form a distinct >> national minority within Georgia, with their own language, a long history � >> Abkhazia is the ancient kingdom of Colchis, land of the Golden Fleece � and, >> now, a functioning democracy that has clearly expressed the will of the >> people. Yet no country anywhere recognizes Abkhazia, not even the Russians, >> who are nevertheless championing their cause in a number of ways, including >> issuing passports to Abkhazian (and Ossetian) nationals. >> >> A recently passed UN resolution clearly puts the onus on Georgia, which has >> been the most belligerent party, to put an end to the conflict. The text >> "once again urges the Georgian side to address seriously legitimate Abkhaz >> security concerns, to avoid steps which could be seen as threatening, and to >> refrain from militant rhetoric and provocative actions, especially in upper >> Kodori valley." >> >> The Georgians have been aggressive of late, invading the disputed Kodori >> Gorge and using it as a base from which to attack the Abkhazians. >> Saakashvili and his government are clearly intent on provoking some sort of >> conflict, and the only question is whether they will receive U.S. backing. >> Recent statements by Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Fried, cited by the >> Moscow Times as being "adamantly opposed to a military option on the part of >> the Georgian government," cast doubt on the possibility, but with this >> administration you never know. >> >> The anti-Russian rhetoric coming out of John McCain's mouth, dutifully >> echoed by the White House, is not just talk. The playing of the "Great Game" >> in Central Asia involves a U.S. strategy to lock the Russians out of the oil >> bonanza and claim the area as an alternative source of energy, i.e., an >> alternative to the Middle East. This may have something to do with why the >> regime-changers have their sights set on the former Soviet Union, demonizing >> Vladimir Putin as the alleged reincarnation of Joseph Stalin and targeting >> Russia as a renewed threat to the West. >> >> The Russians are using the Ossetian and Abkhazian examples as counterpoints >> to the recent suggestion by the Western occupiers of Kosovo that the >> formerly Serbian province be granted formal independence. The Kosovars are >> demanding it, and why, after all, did the U.S. and its European allies fight >> a war to "liberate" Kosovo from the former Yugoslavia, anyway? Yet if Kosovo >> deserves independence, then why not Abkhazia and South Ossetia? This riposte >> is meant to stick in the craw of the Europeans, who have made a special >> point of taking the Georgian side in this dispute. >> >> Russian "peacekeepers," OSCE "observers," South Ossetian troops, and the >> U.S.-trained-and-equipped Georgian military are facing off along ill-defined >> borders, with renegade "rebel" bands supporting one side or the other >> running wild in the no-man's land in between. This is a recipe for disaster, >> and an armed confrontation is bound to occur, with the distinct possibility >> of escalating into all-out warfare. The Russians would soon be drawn in, and >> the U.S. could not escape being dragged into this particular vortex � with >> fateful consequences all 'round. >> >> I can just hear McCain barnstorming the country in '08, denouncing "Russian >> imperialism" and demanding that we "stop Putin" in the Caucasus before >> Russian troops cross the Bering Straits. >> >> Whether or not Abkhazia deserves independence, or South Ossetia should be >> part of the Russian Federation, are questions that Washington should take no >> position on, because no legitimate American interests are involved. We have >> no business meddling in Russia's "near abroad." We should, however, >> recognize the de facto governments of these two breakaway regions, simply as >> a matter of diplomatic convenience: we can't understand what is happening if >> we don't have people on the ground. We should also use our considerable >> leverage with Saakashvili to get him to back off: his inflammatory rhetoric >> during Georgia's recent election campaign, and the statement by his defense >> minister that Georgian troops would have a New Year's party in the capital >> of South Ossetia, does not inspire much confidence. >> >> What seems like a small, obscure dispute could balloon into a major crisis >> because of the stakes involved. The rising amount of U.S. aid to Georgia >> greatly aids Saakashvili's military buildup: his belligerence begs for a >> stern rebuke, perhaps an aid cutoff. It's time to rein in this would-be >> Napoleon-of-the-steppes and nip Georgian imperialism in the bud � before it >> destabilizes what is, after all, a volatile region. If John McCain, George >> Soros, Anne Applebaum, and the usual neoconservative suspects have their >> way, Georgia may be the first battleground of a revived Cold War. The >> problem is that the conflict may turn hot with frightening swiftness. >> >> http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10043 >> >> >> > >Retract these lies, immediately! > >The clock is ticking... It's much more fun 'coercing' the CIA into destroying Wall Street.
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