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Article #4915Re: Nice ... Listen
From: honestjohn
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:58
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:58
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"ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message news:45907175$0$25973$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > honestjohn wrote: > > "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:458faaa0$0$25963$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> > news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> > > >> >> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn" > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn" > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Hi Alexa! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>fiat money > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:)))) > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game: US Response to losing control to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning." > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act." > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans," > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless > > surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans' > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the > > terrorist-surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's > > no > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood" > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without > > warrants > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct > > warrantless > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, > > the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring > > all > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government > > promises > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA > > surveillance > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon > > next > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee.... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10. 1.2 children allowed > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9. Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour, just enough > > to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8. Sending your children to be murdered in wars > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7. Spending 250k for a college education, only to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6. Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5. Everyone has a microwave and financed car > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4. You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3. Democracy means they want you to prop up the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2. Peace is a treasonable offense > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1. If you don't go along with the above plan for > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims. Though it's looking more like they just > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And.... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0. Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV. That will clip them right > > off! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790). > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops > > the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly > > distributed > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to? > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> My future. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Hello > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Hello > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I don't know why > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> I sold the Dodge > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal. > >> >>> > >> >>> So it had terrible ramifications? > >> >> > >> >> You'll have to ask the other drivers. > >> > > >> > Can dead people speak? > >> > >> Sure. > >> > > "ah" is proof of that! > > You have no idea, Boy. > Glad to see you "came back" for just one more jab.
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