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From: honestjohn
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:00
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:00
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"ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message news:458faaa0$0$25963$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > Phil Kyle wrote: > > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > > news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > > > >> Phil Kyle wrote: > >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >>> > >>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Hi Alexa! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>fiat money > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:)))) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game: US Response to losing control to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans," > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee.... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10. 1.2 children allowed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9. Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour, just enough to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8. Sending your children to be murdered in wars > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7. Spending 250k for a college education, only to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6. Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5. Everyone has a microwave and financed car > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4. You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3. Democracy means they want you to prop up the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2. Peace is a treasonable offense > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1. If you don't go along with the above plan for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims. Though it's looking more like they just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And.... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0. Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV. That will clip them right off! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die > >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4 > >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly distributed > >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> My future. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't know why > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I sold the Dodge > >>>>> > >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey. > >>>> > >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal. > >>> > >>> So it had terrible ramifications? > >> > >> You'll have to ask the other drivers. > > > > Can dead people speak? > > Sure. > "ah" is proof of that!
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