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From: honestjohn
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:00
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"ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:458faaa0$0$25963$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
> Phil Kyle wrote:
> > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> > news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >
> >> Phil Kyle wrote:
> >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >>>
> >>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
> >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
> >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Hi Alexa!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>fiat money
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:))))
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans,"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless
surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the
terrorist-surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's
no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without
warrants
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct
warrantless
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law,
the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring
all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government
promises
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA
surveillance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon
next
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough
to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right
off!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops
the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4
> >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly
distributed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> My future.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't know why
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I sold the Dodge
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey.
> >>>>
> >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal.
> >>>
> >>> So it had terrible ramifications?
> >>
> >> You'll have to ask the other drivers.
> >
> > Can dead people speak?
>
> Sure.
>
"ah" is proof of that!
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