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From: ah
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:44
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Phil Kyle wrote:
> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
> news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
> 
>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
>>> 
>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>fiat money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:)))) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right off!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4
>>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly distributed
>>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My future.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't know why
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I sold the Dodge
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cos it was Dodgey.
>>>> 
>>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal.
>>> 
>>> So it had terrible ramifications?
>> 
>> You'll have to ask the other drivers.
> 
> Can dead people speak?

Sure.
-- 
ah
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:44:38 -0500
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