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> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> news:453ad3c5$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: 
>> 
>>> Angrie.Woman wrote:
>>>> ah wrote:
>>>>> Free Speech wrote:
>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn" 
>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <splifingate@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fiat money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :))))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technological 
>>>>>>>>>>> advancement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court 
>>>>>>>>>>> approval
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on by the
>>>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate as early as next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SB2453, the
>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by
>>>>>>>>> committee's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the 
>>>>>>>>> White
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The committee also passed two other surveillance measures,
>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senators
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briefed on the National Security Agency program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feinstein's bill,
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebuffs the administration's legal arguments and all but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> declares the 
>>>>>>>>> warrantless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiretapping illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to 
>>>>>>>>> wiretap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> General to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so long as
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected
>>>>>>>>> terrorists
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil 
>>>>>>>>>>> Liberties
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Union, called the bill "stunning."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The administration has taken their illegal conduct in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiretapping
>>>>>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without court orders, in violation of the Foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligence 
>>>>>>>>>>> Surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not only 
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> FISA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> actually,
>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights," Graves
>>>>>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for
>>>>>>>>>>> Democracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Technology, described the bill's passage out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as 
>>>>>>>>>>> "light
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the
>>>>>>>>> president's
>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative
>>>>>>>>> ratification
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans,"
>>>>>>>>>>> Dempsey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on even
>>>>>>>>>>> domestic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defining all
>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dempsey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "festering 
>>>>>>>>> sore
>>>>>>>>>>> on our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does nor 
>>>>>>>>>>> require,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the administration to submit the whole surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program to 
>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>> by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit the
>>>>>>>>>>> NSA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program to the court, if the bill passes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all
>>>>>>>>>>> surveillance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FISA. But
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> aide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> balance
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that moves
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans'
>>>>>>>>>>> international
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says the
>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only targets communications where one side or the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has 
>>>>>>>>> suspected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorist connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current system
>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only minor changes, such as increasing the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judges that 
>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, and I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to believe that this surveillance can be done, without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacrifice to
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national security, through court-issued individualized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrants for
>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feinstein said
>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a press release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That program has recently been declared unconstitutional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by a 
>>>>>>>>> federal
>>>>>>>>>>> judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawsuits across
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> substance
>>>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication need oversight. Any government surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>>>> captures,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone 
>>>>>>>>> records,
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surveillance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Expands the section of law that allows the attorney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general to 
>>>>>>>>>>> authorize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "substantial 
>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that an American's communication would be captured.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government 
>>>>>>>>>>> unfettered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notification
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days after a declaration of war. The lack of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> congressional 
>>>>>>>>>>> restraint on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>>>> height,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even an 
>>>>>>>>>>> undeclared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government's
>>>>>>>>>>> wartime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searches to
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> period
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limit on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiretapping and
>>>>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searches against Americans. Under current law, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president has 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designates, to 
>>>>>>>>>>> authorize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all
>>>>>>>>> instant-messaging
>>>>>>>>>>> systems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the country, so long as the government promises to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete anythi
>>>>>>>>> ng
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorism-related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a 
>>>>>>>>>>> secretive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the 
>>>>>>>>> Chief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 
>>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the courtroom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs as
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> whole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of having to describe to a judge the particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persons to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitored and the methods to be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rep. Heather
>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canceled. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice 
>>>>>>>>> vote,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graves.
>>>>>>>>>>> Such a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure would leave no record of who voted for or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the 
>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humm, lessee....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dictatorship:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.  1.2 children allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to buy a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gallon of
>>>>>>>>> gas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> middle
>>>>>>>>>>> east
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're on 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> hit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is
>>>>>>>>>>> backing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 
>>>>>>>>> house
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US
>>>>>>>>> treasury,
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is bankrupt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy 
>>>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trinkets made in China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <drum roll, maestro!>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for the New 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American
>>>>>>>>>>> Century
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> Katrina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just gave them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a tent
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Exxon Station.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different goups?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right off!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Double-A
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, saucerhead!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald, National 
>>>>>>>>>> Renewable
>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax: 303/384-6790).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Email:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
>>>>>>>>> YES...YES...YES...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your alternative energy
>>>>>>>> needs are
>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops the
>>>>>>>> internet instead
>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people vastly more 
>>>>>>>> knowledgeable
>>>>>>>> than YOU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies.
>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa.
>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will die
>>>>>> eventually. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my 1/4 acre
>>>>> lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly distributed amongst my
>>>>> children. 
>>>> 
>>>> Unless the local government decides they want to put a condo up to 
>>>> improve their tax base.
>>> 
>>> Condoms are, uh, kinda frowned-upon 'round them parts.
>> 
>> So they wear them on their hands?
> 
> If we were meant to use condoms, we'd have been borne into this worlde
> without 'em.

That's wise, that is. Like the opposite of installation wizard.

-- 
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