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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:18
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:18
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http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Art Deco wrote: >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Art Deco wrote: >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Art Deco wrote: >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Holly wrote: >>>>>>>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Alexa! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Alexa! >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Alexa! >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alexa! >>>> >>>>Hi Alexa! >>> >>> Hi Alexa! >> >>Hi Alexa! > >>>fiat money >>> >>>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion. >> >>Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :)))) >> >>The Meta Game: US Response to losing control to technological advancement >> >>By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter >>15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006 >> >>A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's ability to >>eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without court approval >>passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted on by the full >>Senate as early as next week. >> >>By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the National >>Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by committee's >>chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert with the White >>House. >> >>The committee also passed two other surveillance measures, including one >>from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few senators to be >>briefed on the National Security Agency program. Feinstein's bill, which >>Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill, rebuffs the >>administration's legal arguments and all but declares the warrantless >>wiretapping illegal. >> >>In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's right to wiretap >>Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney General to >>authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans so long as the >>stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected terrorists or >>spies. >> >>Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties >>Union, called the bill "stunning." >> >>"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in wiretapping Americans >>without court orders, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance >>Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to not only get FISA >>changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but to actually, going >>forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy rights," Graves said. >> >>Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate Center for Democracy >>and Technology, described the bill's passage out of committee as "light >>years or miles beyond the Patriot Act." >> >>"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the president's program >>has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative ratification of the >>program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of Americans," Dempsey >>said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners on even domestic >>phone calls and e-mails of citizens. >> >>"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by defining all kinds of >>categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said Dempsey. >> >>Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a "festering sore on our >>body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but does nor require, >>the administration to submit the whole surveillance program to review by a >>secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to submit the NSA >>program to the court, if the bill passes. >> >>The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all surveillance of >>suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with FISA. But an aide >>for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or the balance of >>powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA that moves the law >>toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who spoke on >>background. >> >>Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans' international >>phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but says the program >>only targets communications where one side or the other has suspected >>terrorist connections. >> >>Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the current system needs >>only minor changes, such as increasing the number of judges that issue >>warrants. >> >>"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance program, and I have come >>to believe that this surveillance can be done, without sacrifice to our >>national security, through court-issued individualized warrants for content >>collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process," Feinstein said Wednesday >>in a press release. >> >>That program has recently been declared unconstitutional by a federal judge >>in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20 lawsuits across the >>country. >> >>The bill: >> >>Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch the substance of a >>communication need oversight. Any government surveillance that captures, >>analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as phone records, or >>e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered surveillance. >>Expands the section of law that allows the attorney general to authorize >>spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no "substantial likelihood" >>that an American's communication would be captured. >>Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the government unfettered >>wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or notification for 15 >>days after a declaration of war. The lack of any congressional restraint on >>the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president at the height, >>rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war, even an undeclared >>one. >>Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the government's wartime >>powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical searches to a period >>of 15 days after a declaration of war. >>Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time limit on the >>government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical >>searches against Americans. Under current law, the president has that power >>for only 15 days following a declaration of war. >>Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she designates, to authorize >>widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all instant-messaging systems >>in the country, so long as the government promises to delete anything not >>terrorism-related. >>Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program to a secretive >>court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed by the Chief >>Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers would be allowed in >>the courtroom. >>Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance programs as a whole, >>instead of having to describe to a judge the particular persons to be >>monitored and the methods to be used. >>A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by Rep. Heather Wilson >>(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was canceled. >> >>Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by voice vote, >>called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's Graves. Such a >>procedure would leave no record of who voted for or against the bill. >> >>� >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html > > Humm, lessee.... > > Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A Fascist > Dictatorship: > > 10. 1.2 children allowed > > 9. Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour, just enough to buy a gallon of gas > after taxes. > > 8. Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in the middle east > > 7. Spending 250k for a college education, only to find you're on the hit > list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US government > > 6. Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank who is backing > your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing your house > > 5. Everyone has a microwave and financed car > > 4. You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US treasury, which > is bankrupt > > 3. Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire economy buying > trinkets made in China > > 2. Peace is a treasonable offense > > <drum roll, maestro!> > > 1. If you don't go along with the above plan for the New American Century > of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity in one of > Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like the Katrina > victims. Though it's looking more like they just gave them a tent next to > The Local Exxon Station. > > > And.... > > 0. Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil. > > Wot? -- ah
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