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Re: Nice ... Listen

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From: ah
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:18
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http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Art Deco wrote:
>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Holly wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>>>>
>>>>Hi Alexa!
>>> 
>>> Hi Alexa!
>>
>>Hi Alexa!
> 
>>>fiat money
>>>
>>>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion.
>>
>>Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :))))
>>
>>The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to technological advancement
>>
>>By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>>15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>>
>>A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's ability to
>>eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without court approval
>>passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted on by the full
>>Senate as early as next week.
>>
>>By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the National
>>Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by committee's
>>chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert with the White
>>House.
>>
>>The committee also passed two other surveillance measures, including one
>>from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few senators to be
>>briefed on the National Security Agency program. Feinstein's bill, which
>>Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill, rebuffs the
>>administration's legal arguments and all but declares the warrantless
>>wiretapping illegal.
>>
>>In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's right to wiretap
>>Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney General to
>>authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans so long as the
>>stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected terrorists or
>>spies.
>>
>>Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties
>>Union, called the bill "stunning."
>>
>>"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in wiretapping Americans
>>without court orders, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
>>Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to not only get FISA
>>changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but to actually, going
>>forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy rights," Graves said.
>>
>>Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate Center for Democracy
>>and Technology, described the bill's passage out of committee as "light
>>years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>>
>>"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the president's program
>>has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative ratification of the
>>program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of Americans," Dempsey
>>said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners on even domestic
>>phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>>
>>"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by defining all kinds of
>>categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said Dempsey.
>>
>>Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a "festering sore on our
>>body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but does nor require,
>>the administration to submit the whole surveillance program to review by a
>>secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to submit the NSA
>>program to the court, if the bill passes.
>>
>>The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all surveillance of
>>suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with FISA. But an aide
>>for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or the balance of
>>powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA that moves the law
>>toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who spoke on
>>background.
>>
>>Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans' international
>>phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but says the program
>>only targets communications where one side or the other has suspected
>>terrorist connections.
>>
>>Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the current system needs
>>only minor changes, such as increasing the number of judges that issue
>>warrants.
>>
>>"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance program, and I have come
>>to believe that this surveillance can be done, without sacrifice to our
>>national security, through court-issued individualized warrants for content
>>collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process," Feinstein said Wednesday
>>in a press release.
>>
>>That program has recently been declared unconstitutional by a federal judge
>>in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20 lawsuits across the
>>country.
>>
>>The bill:
>>
>>Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch the substance of a
>>communication need oversight. Any government surveillance that captures,
>>analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as phone records, or
>>e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered surveillance. 
>>Expands the section of law that allows the attorney general to authorize
>>spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no "substantial likelihood"
>>that an American's communication would be captured. 
>>Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the government unfettered
>>wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or notification for 15
>>days after a declaration of war. The lack of any congressional restraint on
>>the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president at the height,
>>rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war, even an undeclared
>>one. 
>>Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the government's wartime
>>powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical searches to a period
>>of 15 days after a declaration of war. 
>>Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time limit on the
>>government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical
>>searches against Americans. Under current law, the president has that power
>>for only 15 days following a declaration of war. 
>>Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she designates, to authorize
>>widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all instant-messaging systems
>>in the country, so long as the government promises to delete anything not
>>terrorism-related. 
>>Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program to a secretive
>>court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed by the Chief
>>Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers would be allowed in
>>the courtroom. 
>>Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance programs as a whole,
>>instead of having to describe to a judge the particular persons to be
>>monitored and the methods to be used.
>>A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by Rep. Heather Wilson
>>(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was canceled.
>>
>>Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by voice vote,
>>called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's Graves. Such a
>>procedure would leave no record of who voted for or against the bill.
>>
>>� 
>>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html
> 
> Humm, lessee....
> 
> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A Fascist
> Dictatorship:
> 
> 10.  1.2 children allowed
> 
> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to buy a gallon of gas
> after taxes.
> 
> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in the middle east
> 
> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to find you're on the hit
> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US government
> 
> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank who is backing
> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing your house
> 
> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
> 
> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US treasury, which
> is bankrupt
> 
> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire economy buying
> trinkets made in China
> 
> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
> 
> <drum roll, maestro!>
> 
> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for the New American Century
> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity in one of
> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like the Katrina
> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just gave them a tent next to
> The Local Exxon Station.
> 
> 
> And....
> 
> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil.
> 
> 

Wot?
-- 
ah
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