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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:43
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn" <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote: > >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com... >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote: >> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Art Deco wrote: >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote: >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote: >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> >http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa! >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa! >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa! >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa! >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Alexa! >> >> > >> >> >Hi Alexa! >> >> >> >> >>fiat money >> >> >> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion. >> >> > >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :)))) >> >> > >> >> >The Meta Game: US Response to losing control to technological >advancement >> >> > >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006 >> >> > >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's ability to >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without court >approval >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted on by the >full >> >> >Senate as early as next week. >> >> > >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the >National >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by committee's >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert with the White >> >> >House. >> >> > >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance measures, including >one >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few senators to >be >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program. Feinstein's bill, >which >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill, rebuffs the >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but declares the warrantless >> >> >wiretapping illegal. >> >> > >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's right to wiretap >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney General to >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans so long as >the >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected terrorists >or >> >> >spies. >> >> > >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil >Liberties >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning." >> >> > >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in wiretapping >Americans >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence >Surveillance >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to not only get >FISA >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but to actually, >going >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy rights," Graves >said. >> >> > >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate Center for >Democracy >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out of committee as >"light >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act." >> >> > >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the president's >program >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative ratification >of the >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of Americans," >Dempsey >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners on even >domestic >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens. >> >> > >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by defining all >kinds of >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said Dempsey. >> >> > >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a "festering sore >on our >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but does nor >require, >> >> >the administration to submit the whole surveillance program to review >by a >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to submit the >NSA >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes. >> >> > >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all >surveillance of >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with FISA. But an >aide >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or the balance >of >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA that moves the >law >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who spoke on >> >> >background. >> >> > >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans' >international >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but says the >program >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the other has suspected >> >> >terrorist connections. >> >> > >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the current system >needs >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number of judges that issue >> >> >warrants. >> >> > >> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance program, and I have >come >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, without sacrifice to >our >> >> >national security, through court-issued individualized warrants for >content >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process," Feinstein said >Wednesday >> >> >in a press release. >> >> > >> >> >That program has recently been declared unconstitutional by a federal >judge >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20 lawsuits across >the >> >> >country. >> >> > >> >> >The bill: >> >> > >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch the substance >of a >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government surveillance that >captures, >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as phone records, >or >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered surveillance. >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the attorney general to >authorize >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no "substantial >likelihood" >> >> >that an American's communication would be captured. >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the government >unfettered >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or notification for >15 >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any congressional >restraint on >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president at the >height, >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war, even an >undeclared >> >> >one. >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the government's >wartime >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical searches to a >period >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war. >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time limit on the >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and >physical >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the president has that >power >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war. >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she designates, to >authorize >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all instant-messaging >systems >> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises to delete anything >not >> >> >terrorism-related. >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program to a >secretive >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed by the Chief >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers would be allowed >in >> >> >the courtroom. >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance programs as a >whole, >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the particular persons to be >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used. >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by Rep. Heather >Wilson >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was canceled. >> >> > >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by voice vote, >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's Graves. >Such a >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for or against the bill. >> >> > >> >> >� >> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html >> >> >> >> Humm, lessee.... >> >> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A Fascist >> >> Dictatorship: >> >> >> >> 10. 1.2 children allowed >> >> >> >> 9. Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour, just enough to buy a gallon of gas >> >> after taxes. >> >> >> >> 8. Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in the middle >east >> >> >> >> 7. Spending 250k for a college education, only to find you're on the >hit >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US government >> >> >> >> 6. Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank who is >backing >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing your house >> >> >> >> 5. Everyone has a microwave and financed car >> >> >> >> 4. You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US treasury, >which >> >> is bankrupt >> >> >> >> 3. Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire economy buying >> >> trinkets made in China >> >> >> >> 2. Peace is a treasonable offense >> >> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!> >> >> >> >> 1. If you don't go along with the above plan for the New American >Century >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity in one of >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like the Katrina >> >> victims. Though it's looking more like they just gave them a tent next >to >> >> The Local Exxon Station. >> >> >> >> >> >> And.... >> >> >> >> 0. Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil. >> > >> > >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different goups? >> > >> >You should get WebTV. That will clip them right off! >> > >> >Double-A >> >> Hi, saucerhead! >> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper! > To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald, National Renewable Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 (303/384-6764; fax: 303/384-6790). Email: carl_osterwald@nrel.gov http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
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