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Re: Nice ... Listen

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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:43
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn" <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
wrote:

>
>"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
>news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
>> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Alexa!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Hi Alexa!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Alexa!
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi Alexa!
>> >>
>> >> >>fiat money
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion.
>> >> >
>> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :))))
>> >> >
>> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to technological
>advancement
>> >> >
>> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>> >> >
>> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's ability to
>> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without court
>approval
>> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted on by the
>full
>> >> >Senate as early as next week.
>> >> >
>> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the
>National
>> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by committee's
>> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert with the White
>> >> >House.
>> >> >
>> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance measures, including
>one
>> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few senators to
>be
>> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program. Feinstein's bill,
>which
>> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill, rebuffs the
>> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but declares the warrantless
>> >> >wiretapping illegal.
>> >> >
>> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's right to wiretap
>> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney General to
>> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans so long as
>the
>> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected terrorists
>or
>> >> >spies.
>> >> >
>> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil
>Liberties
>> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
>> >> >
>> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in wiretapping
>Americans
>> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence
>Surveillance
>> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to not only get
>FISA
>> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but to actually,
>going
>> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy rights," Graves
>said.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate Center for
>Democracy
>> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out of committee as
>"light
>> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>> >> >
>> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the president's
>program
>> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative ratification
>of the
>> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of Americans,"
>Dempsey
>> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners on even
>domestic
>> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>> >> >
>> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by defining all
>kinds of
>> >> >categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said Dempsey.
>> >> >
>> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a "festering sore
>on our
>> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but does nor
>require,
>> >> >the administration to submit the whole surveillance program to review
>by a
>> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to submit the
>NSA
>> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
>> >> >
>> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all
>surveillance of
>> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with FISA. But an
>aide
>> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or the balance
>of
>> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA that moves the
>law
>> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who spoke on
>> >> >background.
>> >> >
>> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans'
>international
>> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but says the
>program
>> >> >only targets communications where one side or the other has suspected
>> >> >terrorist connections.
>> >> >
>> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the current system
>needs
>> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number of judges that issue
>> >> >warrants.
>> >> >
>> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance program, and I have
>come
>> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, without sacrifice to
>our
>> >> >national security, through court-issued individualized warrants for
>content
>> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process," Feinstein said
>Wednesday
>> >> >in a press release.
>> >> >
>> >> >That program has recently been declared unconstitutional by a federal
>judge
>> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20 lawsuits across
>the
>> >> >country.
>> >> >
>> >> >The bill:
>> >> >
>> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch the substance
>of a
>> >> >communication need oversight. Any government surveillance that
>captures,
>> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as phone records,
>or
>> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered surveillance.
>> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the attorney general to
>authorize
>> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no "substantial
>likelihood"
>> >> >that an American's communication would be captured.
>> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the government
>unfettered
>> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or notification for
>15
>> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any congressional
>restraint on
>> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president at the
>height,
>> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war, even an
>undeclared
>> >> >one.
>> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the government's
>wartime
>> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical searches to a
>period
>> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time limit on the
>> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and
>physical
>> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the president has that
>power
>> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
>> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she designates, to
>authorize
>> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all instant-messaging
>systems
>> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises to delete anything
>not
>> >> >terrorism-related.
>> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program to a
>secretive
>> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed by the Chief
>> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers would be allowed
>in
>> >> >the courtroom.
>> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance programs as a
>whole,
>> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the particular persons to be
>> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
>> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by Rep. Heather
>Wilson
>> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was canceled.
>> >> >
>> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by voice vote,
>> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's Graves.
>Such a
>> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for or against the bill.
>> >> >
>> >> >�
>> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html
>> >>
>> >> Humm, lessee....
>> >>
>> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A Fascist
>> >> Dictatorship:
>> >>
>> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
>> >>
>> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to buy a gallon of gas
>> >> after taxes.
>> >>
>> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in the middle
>east
>> >>
>> >> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to find you're on the
>hit
>> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US government
>> >>
>> >> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank who is
>backing
>> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing your house
>> >>
>> >> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
>> >>
>> >> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US treasury,
>which
>> >> is bankrupt
>> >>
>> >> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire economy buying
>> >> trinkets made in China
>> >>
>> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>> >>
>> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
>> >>
>> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for the New American
>Century
>> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity in one of
>> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like the Katrina
>> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just gave them a tent next
>to
>> >> The Local Exxon Station.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And....
>> >>
>> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil.
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different goups?
>> >
>> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right off!
>> >
>> >Double-A
>>
>> Hi, saucerhead!
>>
>Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
>

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