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> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
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> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
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> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah <splifingate@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Art Deco wrote:
> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern_times
> >> >> >>>>>>>
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> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA now. :))))
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control to technological
> >advancement
> >> >> >
> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the government's ability
to
> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. citizens without court
> >approval
> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and may be voted on by the
> >full
> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the
> >National
> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was co-written by
committee's
> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) in concert with the
White
> >> >> >House.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The committee also passed two other surveillance measures,
including
> >one
> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one of the few senators
to
> >be
> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency program. Feinstein's bill,
> >which
> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another bill, rebuffs the
> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but declares the
warrantless
> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the government's right to
wiretap
> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the U.S. Attorney General to
> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of Americans so long as
> >the
> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to monitor suspected
terrorists
> >or
> >> >> >spies.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil
> >Liberties
> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal conduct in wiretapping
> >Americans
> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the Foreign Intelligence
> >Surveillance
> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as springboard to not only
get
> >FISA
> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but to
actually,
> >going
> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' privacy rights," Graves
> >said.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more moderate Center for
> >Democracy
> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage out of committee as
> >"light
> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to rein in the
president's
> >program
> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a legislative
ratification
> >of the
> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless wiretapping of Americans,"
> >Dempsey
> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its vacuum cleaners on even
> >domestic
> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland fashion by defining all
> >kinds of
> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not surveillance," said Dempsey.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless surveillance a "festering
sore
> >on our
> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it allows, but does nor
> >require,
> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole surveillance program to
review
> >by a
> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush promised to submit the
> >NSA
> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a requirement that all
> >surveillance of
> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in accordance with FISA. But
an
> >aide
> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically changes FISA or the
balance
> >of
> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update to FISA that moves
the
> >law
> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to the aide, who spoke on
> >> >> >background.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors Americans'
> >international
> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court authorization, but says the
> >program
> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or the other has
suspected
> >> >> >terrorist connections.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to believe the current system
> >needs
> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the number of judges that
issue
> >> >> >warrants.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the terrorist-surveillance program, and I
have
> >come
> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, without sacrifice to
> >our
> >> >> >national security, through court-issued individualized warrants for
> >content
> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA process," Feinstein said
> >Wednesday
> >> >> >in a press release.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >That program has recently been declared unconstitutional by a
federal
> >judge
> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more than 20 lawsuits across
> >the
> >> >> >country.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The bill:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs that catch the
substance
> >of a
> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government surveillance that
> >captures,
> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications such as phone
records,
> >or
> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer considered surveillance.
> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the attorney general to
> >authorize
> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as there's no "substantial
> >likelihood"
> >> >> >that an American's communication would be captured.
> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that allows the government
> >unfettered
> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without warrants or notification
for
> >15
> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of any congressional
> >restraint on
> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts the president at the
> >height,
> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time of war, even an
> >undeclared
> >> >> >one.
> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that limits the government's
> >wartime
> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and physical searches to
a
> >period
> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts a time limit on the
> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and
> >physical
> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, the president has
that
> >power
> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of war.
> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or she designates, to
> >authorize
> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring all
instant-messaging
> >systems
> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government promises to delete anythi
ng
> >not
> >> >> >terrorism-related.
> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA surveillance program to a
> >secretive
> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges appointed by the
Chief
> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government lawyers would be
allowed
> >in
> >> >> >the courtroom.
> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for surveillance programs as
a
> >whole,
> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the particular persons to
be
> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, sponsored by Rep. Heather
> >Wilson
> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, but was canceled.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon next week by voice
vote,
> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according to the ACLU's Graves.
> >Such a
> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted for or against the
bill.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >�
> >> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Humm, lessee....
> >> >>
> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer To Live In A Fascist
> >> >> Dictatorship:
> >> >>
> >> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
> >> >>
> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just enough to buy a gallon of
gas
> >> >> after taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in wars for oil in the
middle
> >east
> >> >>
> >> >> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only to find you're on
the
> >hit
> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the entire US government
> >> >>
> >> >> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a European bank who is
> >backing
> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained from financing your
house
> >> >>
> >> >> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
> >> >>
> >> >> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary funding the US
treasury,
> >which
> >> >> is bankrupt
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up the entire economy
buying
> >> >> trinkets made in China
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
> >> >>
> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan for the New American
> >Century
> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all of eternity in one of
> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a cot, like the
Katrina
> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they just gave them a tent
next
> >to
> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> And....
> >> >>
> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out of oil.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different goups?
> >> >
> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right off!
> >> >
> >> >Double-A
> >>
> >> Hi, saucerhead!
> >>
> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
> >
>
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