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THIS IS A REPRODUCTION 

                                        John Lear 
                                        1414 Hollywood Blvd 
                                        Las Vegas, Nevada 89110 


                                        December 13, 1987 


Dear Steven: 


It was nice talking to you last night. I have enclosed the Dulce
papers 
for your information. Also enclosed is a transcript of the McCampbell 
conversation with Paul Bennewitz and project Beta. Also the Gary
Stollman 
statement. What follows is my current hypothesis formed after my 2
week 
trip through Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona talking to various 
individuals, some Air Force, some Sandia and some others. 


 MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government made a deal with the EBE's
(extra- 
terrestrial biological entities) or "Greys" around the period of 1969-
1970-1971. The "deal" was in exchange for technology that they would 
provide to us we would ignore the abductions that were going on. The
EBE's 
assured us that these abductions were merely ongoing monitoring of
develop- 
ing civilizations:  (in fact these abductions have been for at least 3
purposes: (1) insertion of a tiny probe about 3 millimeters in size
into 
the brain for monitoring and programming purposes; (2) post hypnotic
sugges- 
tion concerning an important event that will occur in the next 2 to 5
years 
and giving the subject someplace to go and something to perform at
that 
time; under our best hypnotic techniques we were unable to find out
when 
or where or what this event is, and (3) genetic crossbreeding between
the 
EBE's and humans. In many of the abductee hypnotic regressions of
women 
with unusual terminated pregnancies they have been shown these "cross-
breeds", usually frail tiny beings with comparatively large heads,
thin 
skin, very thin arms and legs. Since we weren't aware of these facts
we 
went along with the agreement but insisted on a list of the abductees
to be 
submitted periodically to the National Security Council and MJ-12. 


The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is
atro- 
phied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved in
some 
type of nuclear war or possibly on the back side of a genetic curve.
In 
order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion 
obtained from the tongues and throats of cows or humans. (Note:  cows
and 
humans are genetically similar. In event of a national disaster cow
blood 
can be used by humans). This secretion is mixed with H2O2 (hydrogen
perox- 
ide) and another substance and is either spread on the skin, or the
hands 
are dipped in the solution. The body then absorbs the mixture and
excretes 
the waste back through the skin. 


The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 
1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories
and 
included a documentary produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS
affiliate 
were for the collection of these secretions and other items. The
mutilations 
included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes missing
and 
the tongue and throat cut with extreme surgical precision. The
incisions 
were made cutting between the cells, actually separating molecular 
structure. This is why no blood was found at all, yet there was no 
vascular collapse. This has also been true in human mutilations, 
one of the first ones of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the 
White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after
an 
Air Force Major had witnessed the abduction of Sgt. Louette by a "disk
shaped" object about 0200 one morning. His genitals had been removed, 
rectum cored out in a surgically precise "plug" up to the colon, eyes
re- 
moved and no blood remaining, with no vascular collapse. From some of
the 
evidence it is apparent that this surgery is accomplished in most
cases 
while the victim, animal or human, is still alive. The various parts
are 
taken to various underground laboratories, one of which is known to be
2-1/2 miles northwest of the small New Mexico town of Dulce, 1 Km deep
inside the Archuletta Mesa. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility
has been described as enormous, with huge tiled halls that "go on for-
ever". Several ink drawings of photos taken inside the facility were 
recently released as the "Dulce Papers". The photos show large vats
with 
pale meat being agitated in solution. An abductee in regression
recalled 
"large test tubes with humans in them. I saw a baby in another". 


After the initial agreement between MJ-12 and the aliens, Groom Lake, 
one of this nation's most secret test centers in Nevada was closed for
a 
period of 2 years (1972-1973) and a huge underground facility was con-
structed for and with the help of the EBE's. The bargained-for techno-
logy was set in place but could only be operated by the EBE's them- 
selves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not be used
against 
the EBE's in case of need. 


During the period of 1979 through 1983 it became increasingly obvious
to 
MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became known that many
more people (in the thousands) were being abducted than were listed on
the official abduction list being supplied to the National Security
Coun- 
cil and MJ-12 and that the abductions included much more that the
"simple 
monitoring of an advancing civilization". In addition, it became
obvious 
that some, not all, but some of the nation's missing children had been
used for secretions and other parts required by the aliens. 


In 1979, there was an altercation of sorts at the Archuletta
laboratory. 
Delta Force was called in to try and free a number of people trapped
in 
the facility who had become aware of what was really going on. 66 of
the 
soldiers were killed in the effort and our people were not freed. 


By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror of the mistake they had
made 
in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly promoted "Close Encounters
of 
the Third Kind" and "E.T." to get the public used to "odd-looking"
aliens 
that were compassionate, benevolent, and very much our "space
brothers". 
They "sold" the EBE's to the public and were now faced with the fact
that 
quite the opposite was true. In addition, a plan started in 1968-1969 
to make the public aware of the existance of aliens on Earth over the 
next 20 years, to be culminated with several documentaries to be
released 
during the 1985-1987 period of time. These documentaries would explain
the 
history and intentions of the EBE's. The discovery of the "Grand
Deception" 
put the entire plans, hopes, wishes, and dreams of MJ-12 into complete
confusion and panic. 


Meeting at the "Country Club", a remote lodge with private golf course
and 
lavish sleeping and working quarters built by and exclusively for the 
members of MJ-12, it was a factional fight of what to do now. Part of 
MJ-12 wanted to confess the whole scheme and shambles it had become to
the 
public, beg their forgiveness, and ask for their support. The other
half 
of MJ-12 argued there was no way they could do that, that the
situation 
was untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with the
"hor- 
rible truth" and the best plan was to continue the development of a
weapon 
that could be used against the EBE's under the guise of "SDI", the
Strate- 
gic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatever to do with a
defense 
from Russian nuclear missiles. As these words are being written, Dr.
Teller 
"father of the H-bomb", is in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site
driving his workers and associates in the words of one, "like a man 
possessed". And well he should for Dr. Teller was a member of MJ-12,
along 
with Dr. Kissinger, Bobby Inman and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to
name 
a few of the current MJ-12. 


Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to the
meticulous 
plan of metered release of information to the public, several
documentaries 
and videotapes were made. William Moore, a Burbank, California-based
UFO 
researcher came into possession of a videotape through his contacts
with 
MJ-12 who had taken a great interest in Mr. Moore's book, "The Roswell
Incident", published in 1980. The book detailed the crash, recovery,
and 
subsequent coverup of a UFO with 4 alien bodies. They decided to use 
Moore as one of several conduits to help in the gradual release of the
existance of aliens to the public. The video Mr. Moore had was an
inter- 
view by 2 well known newsmen of a military officer associated with
MJ-12. 
In the interview the military officer answers questions relating to
the 
history of MJ-12 and the coverup, the recovery of a number of flying 
saucers, the existance of a live alien (one of three living aliens,
desig- 
nated or named EBE1, EBE2, and EBE3) being held in a facility
designated 
as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other facility of this
type 
is at Edwards Air Force Base in Mojave, California. The officer named 
names as previously mentioned plus a few others:  Harold Brown,
Richard 
Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters, and Von Karmon. The officer also relates
the 
fact that the EBE's claim to have created Christ. The EBE's have some
sort 
of recording device that has recorded all of the Earth's history and
can 
display it in the form of a hologram. This hologram can be filmed but 
because of the way holograms work, it does not come out clearly. The 
crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives has allegedly been put on
film to show to the public. The EBE's claim to have created Christ in 
view of the "Grand Deception" could be an effort to disrupt
traditional 
values for undetermined reasons. 


Another videotape alleged to be in existence is an interview with an
EBE. 
Since EBE's communicate telepathically, an Air Force Colonel serves as
an 
interpreter. Just before the recent stock market crash, several
newsmen 
including Bill Moore had been invited to Los Alamos to personally film
and distribute to the public a similar type interview. Apparently,
because 
of the market crash, it was felt that the timing was not

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Dr. H.J. Scrimgeour, Chemical Residues, Ontario   




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"Garrison L. Hilliard" <aa...@DETROIT.FREENET.ORG> writes: 


> statement. What follows is my current hypothesis formed after my 2 week 
> trip through Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona talking to various 
> individuals, some Air Force, some Sandia and some others. 


An interesting piece of fiction. 


> obtained from the tongues and throats of cows or humans. (Note:  cows and 
> humans are genetically similar. In event of a national disaster cow blood 
> can be used by humans). 


No, they're not.  Cows don't even have the same number of chromosomes 
that we do.  Cow blood cannot be used by humans. 

Well, not for transfusion, anyway, which I presume is what the author 
means.  Cow plasma works great as a binder in processed meats. 



> The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 
> 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories and 
> included a documentary produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate 
> were for the collection of these secretions and other items. The mutilations 
> included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes missing and 
> the tongue and throat cut with extreme surgical precision. 


Note that these are the softest tissues, most accessible to 
scavengers.  The "extreme surgical precision" turns out on close 
examination to be nothing of the sort. 


> The incisions 
> were made cutting between the cells, actually separating molecular 
> structure. This is why no blood was found at all, yet there was no 
> vascular collapse. 


The reason there's no bleeding is that the animal was already dead 
when attacked by scavengers. 


> Here is a list of some of the probable visitors to Earth from outer 
> space. The only known home of these visitors is that of the EBE's and 
> which is Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2, a binary star system visible from the 
> Southern Hemi- sphere approximatly 38 light years away with a spectral 
> class of G2, identical to our Sun. 


Do we have any astronomers on the list?  I was under the impression 
that binary stars are unlikely to have planets. 


> A word about channeling and channelors. Pure, unadulterated crap. 


There's a lot of that going around. 

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> Do we have any astronomers on the list?  I was under the impression 
> that binary stars are unlikely to have planets. 


Are we really sure that the Sun is not itself part of a binary system
? 



> > A word about channeling and channelors. Pure, unadulterated crap. 


> There's a lot of that going around. 


Should we be looking rather for adulterated crap ? 

TD. 


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The discussion goes: 



>> Do we have any astronomers on the list?  I was under the impression 
>> that binary stars are unlikely to have planets. 
>Are we really sure that the Sun is not itself part of a binary system ? 


The Sun may or may not have a companion. That companion, however, is
not large 
or near enough to significantly affect our solar system. Binary star
system 
may contain members separated by a few light years, in which case
planetary 
formation may proceed, although it would probably be affected to some
extent 
by the other sun, whether it was fully formed yet or not. 

Our solar system appears to have been formed without interference. I
don't 
have figures for the Zeta Reticuli system - mass of the stars,
separation, etc. 
but in a system where the stars are close and they make frequent trips
around 
each other, survival of any planets is problematical, and the
likelihood of 
life evolving to an advanced stage in such a system (Asimov's
"Nightfall" 
notwithstanding), is very small. 


In one sense, we are already a double system, as Jupiter puts out more
energy than it takes in from the Sun. This energy is produced,
however, by 
gravitational contraction, and not fusion. Jupiter, at 1/1000 the
Sun's mass, 
will never achieve the core pressures necessary for self-sufficient
fusion. 
(Unless, of course, millions of black monoliths add to its mass, ala
_2010_) 
;-) 
Jupiter is the single largest gravitational influence on the planets
aside from 
the Sun. It is large enough to have comets circle _it_ in orbit, as
the comet 
Levy-Shoemaker is doing, before it runs into Jupiter this July. But it
is not 
a sun. It is not visibly luminous, nor powered by fusion. If it were
large 
enough to do so, it is unlikely that Earth's biosphere would have
stayed 
stable enough for life to get where it has. Moons of Jupiter would
probably 
resemble Mercury, and be incapable of supporting life. 


Not that any of this is meant to lend creedence to the MJ-12 fairy
tale we 
heard. 


Tom Faller 








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A R Dickinson <to...@CASTLE.EDINBURGH.AC.UK> writes: 


> Are we really sure that the Sun is not itself part of a binary system ? 


I'm reasonably sure.  Do you have evidence to the contrary? 

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