🚀 go-pugleaf

Wrong!!!

What you described might be MCSNet's current policy, but I never said my
case happened recently. I was supporting the fact that MCSNet has a
history of misleading customers and I was definetely one of them.

The main problem is that you assumed that this policy was in effect at the
time I was a subscriber to their service. 

It was not. 

I had many long arguments with MCSNet regarding their policy and the fact
they purposely misled me. They were forced to refund my money due to their
misleading policy. In fact, this might be why they changed their contract.

When I subscribed to MCSNet, I was required to send a xeroxed copy of my
ID to them before they activated my service. I had to sign an affadavit
and verify that I was over 21. Why do you suppose this was? Do they still
require this? 

Not that it would have changed anything, but their web page was not
available to me until after I signed on.

I asked the MCSNet representatives (I talked to more than one) if I had
full access to binary areas and the USENET and they said yes. I asked this
question several times, because I was aware of several ISPs limiting areas
they didn't approve of (this is not limited to just the "porno" areas). 

I do not believe in censorship of any kind. I am an adult and I am fully
capable of determining for myself what I want to see and read. I don't
need Karl Denniger to do it for me and I certainly don't need his
employees to lie to me and deny that this was their policy. 

I am glad to hear from you that MCSNet is now upfront about their
censorship. Customers will approve or disaprove of Denniger's policy of
censorship on their own, but at least he isn't lying to them anymore.

You are quite right when you say,"If you don't like their policies, don't
buy from them." When they stopped lying to me I demanded and recieved a
refund and took my business elsewhere.

In the future, it would behoove you not to assume things.

J. Edgar Hoover

> 
> Good try.  You get a zero.  First MCSNet actually ADVERTISES the fact
> that they do not carry warez or porno groups.  This is no secret.
> KD is proud of this fact and has no reason to hide it.  Matter of fact:
> it's in the contract you sign to become a customer.  Fact: It's on
> their web page available BEFORE you become a customer (MCSNet Account 
> and Network Policies).  They are very upfront about this.
> 
> No one is forced to purchase their services from MCSNet.  If you
> don't like their policies, don't buy from them.
> 
> Jude
> 
> -- 
> 
>         Jude Crouch (jcrouch@pobox.com) - Computing since 1967!
>       Crouch Enterprises - Telecom, Internet & Unix Consulting
>     Oak Park, IL  708-848-0145  URL: http://www.pobox.com/~jcrouch

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