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Article #516Re: Mike Focke's DC BBS Listing (202/301/703) [bbdc0696.zip]
From: klaatu
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 00:00
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thedirectory of BBSes and Internet Access Providers wrote: > > klaatu (root@earthops.org) wrote: > : BBSes? Does anyone actually call them anymore? Hasn't anyone ever heard the > : saying, "That's as old as a BBS"? > > Yes they do. If you don't like BBSes, don't call them. No one is forcing > you to do so. The BBS sysops spend a lot of time and money to make their > BBSes really nice. It is a lot more work than what it takes to create a > web page. BBSes will always be around and are likely to make a comeback > when they are rediscovered when the Net becomes overcrowded. And BBSes > are ideal for real-time chat. Why yes, you're so very right. I was a Citadel sysop for about three years. In that time, I spent probably a hundred dollars a month in networking costs, which reduced themselves to effectively zero once I got InterNet access. I admit I thought I was really quite clever for being able to take some software, configure it so that varying people or groups of users had varying levels of access to my MS-DOS machine. And I even passed huge networking packets of a meg at a time, compressed, and me and my users all hooked into a network composed of maybe three hundred other users, and took three days to transport a single file from coast to coast. Now if I post, I can reach the world within seconds, the files of the world are mounted at my fingertips, I can send mail with any level of security I could send via FIDO or CitNet, I graphic interfaces that aren't restricted to some imbecilic ripscript, and best of all, I only have to have one phone line occupied fulltime for multiple users via TCP/IP to reach my internet _domain_. As for chat, there's a jillion chat rooms, but I find it's really just a bit too jevenile for me, as a rule. If I need to talk to someone, I just pick up the phone; otherwise E-mail usually will do. If you just want to post where people can see it, not only is ther UseNet, but there's excellent little cgi-bin scripts that will emulate almost any BBSwares, on a web-page, complete with access controls, etc... and once you've paid your provider's charges, there's no extra cost no matter how far around the world you go. The reason I use the phrase "old as a BBS" is simply because a few years ago, some people who did BBSing got into the internet for the first time, and said, "I should maybe get a _real_ BBS, one that doesn't cost so much and connects everywhere". And Internet providers were born. Why should you blow hundreds of dollars on a MajorBBS and multiple phone lines when you can simply get a Point Of Presence at a phone switching station, run Linux for free (or get a real computer and run Solaris) and have not a BBS but The Mother of All BBSes and get paid for it? A BBS is to the Internet like a quarter-watt walkie talkie is to a fullfledged HAM set with 5,000 watts of linear amplifier. > > : What a joke. If you've got Internet Access, calling a BBS is like scraping > : dinner plates instead of using a dishwasher. You don't get quite as much for > : your efforts and it wastes a lot of time. > > IF it wastes YOUR time then don't call them. I don't. I got tired of snivelling backstabbing local losers on pathetic power trips. I'd rather hang on-line with people I may never meet, but who occasionally are well-mannered credentialed professionals with morals and ethics. > There are just as many > people who think the Net is a waste of time. There are lots of things > that are a waste of time to certain people. Those certain people don't do > those things they are not interested in. Please do what you like to do > and stop berating others who enjoy things you don't enjoy. If we were all > the same the world would be v-e-r-y boring. Ah, yes, that's why I like the Internet! Instead of having to find some sysop who's not on an access-control powertrip, and hoping that I won't offend them or their users, I can say what I want, and if I am confronted with someone who's opinions differ, there's absolutely no problem. Neither of us can really do a damned thing about getting the other's access cancelled, and the absence of potential for power-over turns one-way one-sided forums into true debates, which rarely if ever occur on any single-system BBS. As one sysop said, well, coming onto my BBS is like coming into my house. And he's right. I take it to the street, the Mainstreet of the world of communications, UseNet. If you want to crouch in one little dimly-lit virtual room that's completely isolated from the larger world of online communications, go right ahead. I shall continue to scoff. -- Be kind to your neighbors, | "When the going gets wierd the weird turn pro." even though they be | http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/home.html transgenic chimerae. | Now. Chock full of uninteresting links. --------------------------- "How's the weather?" "Kinda, um... spooky." ---- In the Fall: http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/infall.html ------ "Sarah Connor?" All UseNet and BitNet postings are copyrighted.
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