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dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:

> I was under the impression that alt.bbs.waffle had been rmgrouped about
> 3 months ago, however I've started receiving messages intended for that
> group in my junk file over the last few days.
> 
> Is alt.bbs.waffle dead and buried?
> 
> I assumed it was, as comp.bbs.waffle is very much alive and kicking.
> 
> Perhaps it's a zombie group. :-)

A few days after the rmgroup, someone sent a newgroup alt.bbs.waffle.
Most of us just ignore it.

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a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:

>A few days after the rmgroup, someone sent a newgroup alt.bbs.waffle.
>Most of us just ignore it.

Unfortunately, sites running C-News will automatically create it.

More than likely the culprit was Bruce Becker. The simple solution to
bypassing a Becker-autonewgroup is to add the line:

Path: becker!yoursite!yourname

to your posting. This will "fool" the news software into thinking that
it has already sent the posting to becker's site. Thus, he won't see it,
and rmgroups that he can't see, he can't newgroup.

MD
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dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:

> Is alt.bbs.waffle dead and buried?

Yes.


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In <1992Oct05.120201.17323@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:

>>A few days after the rmgroup, someone sent a newgroup alt.bbs.waffle.
>>Most of us just ignore it.

>Unfortunately, sites running C-News will automatically create it.

An even simpler solution for those running C-News:

	% delgroup alt.bbs.waffle
	% addgroup alt.bbs.waffle x

This will send all the postings into the bit-bucket bypassing even "junk".
It also eliminates the automatic newgroup problem, since the newsgroup
is actually listed in the "active" file.

I prefer this over aliasing, since the former leaves the old group name
to live on forever.  Case in point is: "comp.sys.ibm.hardware" which
still receives 2-3 postings per day even tho' it's been replaced by
"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware".  Sigh...

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:

> I was under the impression that alt.bbs.waffle had been rmgrouped about
> 3 months ago, however I've started receiving messages intended for that
> group in my junk file over the last few days.

  It wasn't actually regrouped at all.  Another group was formed, and that
is comp.bbs.waffle.  They are separate and I don't currently carry the
comp.bbs.waffle group here because of all the duplication there no doubt is
and will continue to be for sometime.

> Is alt.bbs.waffle dead and buried?

  Nope.  It's alive and well here and can stay right where it is as far as
I am concerned.

> I assumed it was, as comp.bbs.waffle is very much alive and kicking.

  You know what they say about assumtions... ;-) ;-)

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In article <kgyHsB1w165w@twiki.PDX.COM> dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber) writes:
|  It wasn't actually regrouped at all.  Another group was formed, and that
|is comp.bbs.waffle.  They are separate and I don't currently carry the
|comp.bbs.waffle group here because of all the duplication there no doubt is
|and will continue to be for sometime.

Are you sure that someone up the line from you isn't aliasing comp.bbs.waffle
to alt.bbs.waffle?  On psuvax1, there have been 20 articles in alt.bbs.waffle
in the last 10 days, most of which are talking about whether or not
alt.bbs.waffle is dead.  There are 351 articles in comp.bbs.waffle over that
same 10-day time period.

If you're posting to alt.bbs.waffle, you're doing yourself a disservice; lots
less people read alt.bbs.waffle than comp.bbs.waffle .  comp.bbs.waffle
got 68% distribution in September's USENET readership report, as opposed to
54% for alt.bbs.waffle.

|> Is alt.bbs.waffle dead and buried?
|
|  Nope.  It's alive and well here and can stay right where it is as far as
|I am concerned.

Why not alias it to vox.waffle, Dale?  Then you can hang onto even *earlier*
history.

alt.bbs.waffle is essentially dead.  If you want to hold on to it for your
own reasons, go ahead, but don't try to get other people to.

  Bill

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>>A few days after the rmgroup, someone sent a newgroup alt.bbs.waffle.
>
>Unfortunately, sites running C-News will automatically create it.

I beg your pardon:  I run a C News site, and the previous admin had the
brains to turn off automatic newgrouping years ago -- about the time of
"talk.ketchup", "misc.sheep", and "alt.sex.aluminum.baseball.bat".

Change that to "sites running C News whose admins don't give a @$%&..."

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elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) writes:

>I beg your pardon:  I run a C News site, and the previous admin had the
>brains to turn off automatic rmgrouping years ago -- about the time of
>"talk.ketchup", "misc.sheep", and "alt.sex.aluminum.baseball.bat".

C-News by default honors newgroups, and mails rmgroups to the news
administrator.

So, you previous site admin didn't "have the brains to turn off automatic
rmgrouping years ago", c-news as supplies automatically does that anyway.

MD
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