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In article <FP3XiB1w164w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
(Steve Frampton) writes:

Hi Steve!

>I made an attractive screen (took me two hours) and replaced the 'entry' 
>file with it.
>
>However, things go "bump" when attempting a site calls via UUCICO to send 
>me some mail/news.  I've simulated this on my other computer to find out 
>what is happening, the modems connect, UUCICO begins looking for the 
>'NEW:' prompt (this is Waffle UUCICO btw) but instead is inundated with 
>this ANSI screen stuff.
>
>It doesn't even let 4 ANSI lines go by before it gets uppity and says, 
>"Login failed, never got NEW:".
>
>Any tunable parameters for this?

Not likely---how do you tell what system is calling in?!

Incidently, there's an easy solution, if you'd only talked to your
neighbours first (like me) :-)

I can tell my login script ("chat script") to keep looking, again,
and again, again... enough times to get by the login screen.

So sure, if you want a big, ugly, bbs screen, I can handle it.  I
assume Waffle can too (but you don't have any waffle sites calling
you, so it doesn't matter to you, right?)

- Paul Colley
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frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> I decided to try and make Waffle look a little better and design some 
> ANSI screens for the login sequence (as the BBS wimps like these things).

Not a good idea.  I'd suggest the welcome screen instead, and leave
the entry for logins.

> However, things go "bump" when attempting a site calls via UUCICO to send 
> me some mail/news.  I've simulated this on my other computer to find out 
> what is happening, the modems connect, UUCICO begins looking for the 
> 'NEW:' prompt (this is Waffle UUCICO btw) but instead is inundated with 
> this ANSI screen stuff.

Yep.  You're giving it too much data.  Why subject your uucp callers
to having to kludge unnecessary chat scripts?  If you MUST, then YOU
should provide them with a sample chat script to get through the
fluff.  Something like (wrapped for clarity)

choice: \c BBS, \c echo's! \c .org \c BBS \c .com \c secs. PASS
     Wait... \c BBS \c wk \c Operator \c .com \c NEW: xxx word:--word: yyy

> Any tunable parameters for this?

Nope.

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> Hi everyone.
> 
> I decided to try and make Waffle look a little better and design some 
> ANSI screens for the login sequence (as the BBS wimps like these things).
> 
> I made an attractive screen (took me two hours) and replaced the 'entry' 
> file with it.  Now, when a caller connects they see the attractive screen 
> and are then asked for their login information.  This works fine.

Maybe you could use your ANSI screen as the welcome file, instead of
the entry file.  The users would see it only after they had
successfully logged in.  Your uucp accounts would never see it because
they shell out to uucico instead of the bbs.




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[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> Hi everyone.
> 
> I decided to try and make Waffle look a little better and design some 
> ANSI screens for the login sequence (as the BBS wimps like these things).
> 
> I made an attractive screen (took me two hours) and replaced the 'entry' 
> file with it.  Now, when a caller connects they see the attractive screen 
> and are then asked for their login information.  This works fine.
> 
> However, things go "bump" when attempting a site calls via UUCICO to send 
> me some mail/news.  I've simulated this on my other computer to find out 
> what is happening, the modems connect, UUCICO begins looking for the 
> 'NEW:' prompt (this is Waffle UUCICO btw) but instead is inundated with 
> this ANSI screen stuff.
> 
> It doesn't even let 4 ANSI lines go by before it gets uppity and says, 
> "Login failed, never got NEW:".
> 
> Any tunable parameters for this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Steve Frampton (frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca), Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
> "Sometimes I tune my car radio to static and pretend I'm flying an F-16"

This is not strictly a waffle problem.  I've seen this happen with
several unix sites which have large welcome screens.  It is normally\
correctible with a highly tuned dialog in the calling site's
files.

Thierry Lach				UUCP: sharkey!sycom!curlie!thierry
My opinions are mine and mine alone.

>frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> I decided to try and make Waffle look a little better and design some
>> ANSI screens for the login sequence (as the BBS wimps like these things).
>>
>> I made an attractive screen (took me two hours) and replaced the 'entry'
>> file with it.  Now, when a caller connects they see the attractive screen
>> and are then asked for their login information.  This works fine.
>>
>> However, things go "bump" when attempting a site calls via UUCICO to send
>> me some mail/news.  I've simulated this on my other computer to find out
>> what is happening, the modems connect, UUCICO begins looking for the
>> 'NEW:' prompt (this is Waffle UUCICO btw) but instead is inundated with
>> this ANSI screen stuff.
>>
>> It doesn't even let 4 ANSI lines go by before it gets uppity and says,
>> "Login failed, never got NEW:".
>>
>> Any tunable parameters for this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Steve Frampton (frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca), Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
>> "Sometimes I tune my car radio to static and pretend I'm flying an F-16"

Fancy login screens shouldn't happen with networked systems until
*AFTER* the login: password: pair.  All it does is waste network
connection time displaying a fancy screen that the other computer could
care less about and can't understand anyway.

Besides, as you found out, it screws up your send/expect chat script.
I suggest you more your fancy screen to the 'welcome' file.

-- Bob

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