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FyRE@alt.retribution wrote:
> On 14 Feb 1998 11:49:24 GMT, Roger Williams <rogerw@shell1.tiac.net> wrote:

> >> >"alt.fan.karla.malden.nose?" 
> >> >             ^
> >> >             ^
> >> >
> >> >Fuck but yer a stupid cunt sometimes, FrYEd... 
> >
> >> Hmm, of course you'd never make such an error, eh?
> >
> >   Probably not.

> Swooooooosh!

Vrooooooom! (stop cascading now, FyRE...snicker)

> >> BTW, I'm not sure why you're so certain I posted the latest flood.
> >
> >   Well, this for one:
> >
> >Message-ID: <887011580.24344.757.nnrp-04.9e9891cb@news.demon.co.uk>
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: tiktok.demon.co.uk
> >
> >   Hello, Limey.

> "Latest flood". Two words, three syllables, one meaning. The 6000 articles
> posted yesterday were from, and I quote:

   Oh yeah. Your latest magnum opus. How thoughtless of me not to notice
your shiny new NetcomUK account. I'll be sure to cast a dewy eyed glaze
of joy at it when it's savagely nuked by Netcoma. But let's get on to
slightly more important things...

> Message-ID: <6c30e1$hgc$2021@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-16-37.netcomuk.co.uk
> X-Trace: taliesin.netcom.net.uk 887424257 17932 194.42.232.37 (14 Feb 1998
> 02:44:17 GMT)

> >> I'm offering a copy of the bot to anyone who mails me - hardcoded
> >> to only target certain groups though. In fact I may be putting it up on my
> >> web site soon for anyone on usenet to download. Perhaps you'll think
> >> twice about cascading all over the net when you realise how easily a few
> >> disgruntled victims of your stupidity can grind your newsgroup(s) into the mud.
> >
> >   "Victims", eh? <chuckle> C'mon Fyre, you used to even have a sense of
> >hjumor. Fuck all, you're starting to sound as thin skinned as Krapout
> >after you put your (admittedly hysterical) parody of his shitty comic
> >strip up on your page. Don't tell me a few cascades make you feel
> >"victimized" and have hurt your itty bitty feelings now, have they?

> So, in essence what you're saying is that one shouldn't feel victimised when
> unwanted and irritating articles begin to appear in one's newsgroup. Is that
> what you're saying, Roger? 

   That seems to be what *you're* saying, FyRE. In fact, it seems to be
weighing so heavily on your tortured little mind that you don't mind
tossing off a childish little rant. Let me put it to you like this:
since when have you, of all people, been so thin skinned (especially after
your tenure on alt.flame) to not only pretend (that is, one can only
*hope* you're pretending) you feel like a "victim" of cascading into
alt.retribution? Secondly, "unwanted articles"? Says who? Just because you
managed to newgroup something without hurting yourself, you may not have
noticed that alt.anything is going to be prone to crossposting. You don't
want that? Fucking moderate it. I'm not saying I don't feel bad for you...
well actually... I don't, but anyways, your temper tantrum was a slightly
surprising response from you since you'd always seemed fairly firmly
grounded in good emotional health.

> Perhaps you'd like to explain why certain members
> of your own group(s) took it upon themselves to complain to my postmaster,
> claiming their newsgroup(s) were being adversely affected by the bot when you
> clearly believe the opposite.

  "My" groups? Do I have a title of ownership for alt.flame or something
all of a sudden? Since when do I speak for or have to speak for anyone
else? Jesus, you really *are* feeling a little persecuted by all this,
huh?

   As to why LJB et. al went spastic on you to their postmasters? Their
decision. You could have even complained to the respective postmasters of
the people crossposting cascades into your alt.retribution...

   The problem being, however, you know as well as I do that you won't be
able to find one that would give a fuck. So, faced with the impending
abandonment at the hands of the respective postmasters, you flipped.
And let's face it, you flipped in a way that practically *every* news
admin in the world would constitute as hostile net abuse, landing yourself
in the Top 10 list of BI > 20 usenet spammers (#6 and #10 if I recall
correctly?). That was bound to get you nuked, and I know you're not stupid
enough to have expected otherwise.

> Perhaps I hurt Beauregard's "itty bitty feelings", eh? 

   ObMegadeth: "What do you mean I hurt your feelings? I didn't know you
                HAD any feelings..."

   Perhaps you hurt Demon's as well given the way they nuked your account.
However, it's the use of words like "victim", etc. that lead me to query
about how your skin was suddenly thinned after being in alt.flame so long?
Where was the concern about "adversely affecting" other newsgroup when you
were in alt.flame engaging in massively crossposted threads? It just
doesn't add up.... one day, you're exchanging barbs with Kerro... the
next, you're shitting your diapers on alt.flame

   Hmm. Jeckyll and Hyde, I guess.

> This is assuming of
> course, that depite the evidence served up by anglers, the creatures at
> Beauregard's end of the evolutionary ladder have palpable feelings. 

   Oh, *come on*, FyRE, do you need a fucking Kleenex? Jesus, I'd say that
sentence makes you sound like a girl, but I don't even think most girls
get that weepy about hurt "feelings".

> The imbecile
> never has written anything of worth, and ironically, his only claim to fame was
> joining in the cascading of alt.bigfoot a few years ago, literally filling said
> group with thousands of cascade articles until the inhabitants left. A real
> talent, and no mistake. The fact is that there were a couple of decent flamers
> in a.b. So good in fact that Stain and co couldn't actually match them on their
> terms and took to pouring cascades into their group to bore them into silence.
> Much like today, in fact. I was there, and these are the facts despite what any
> of the old hands say.

   What does anything about LJB have to do with anything I wrote? I asked
you a fairly simple question, namely, what the fuck happened to turn a
fearless flamer into a whinging crybaby in the span of less than a month?
Was it parental pride over newgrouping alt.retribution? Did the strain of
"Austrialia sucks / no, England sucks" threads finally snap something
delicate in your head? For God's sake, man, you were one of the few
alt.flame regulars worth reading, and you ruin it with your temper
tantrum. From flamer extraordinaire, to common spaming happy choad. Gad,
what a waste.

> >   And for what it's worth, I effortlessly breezed by your flood using
> >tin. Just hang on the spacebar for a few seconds, and voila, surf right
> >past your temper tantrum. 

> Funny how many people claim I've had no affect, yet for some reason still feel
> so traumatised by my actions they have to scream to mummy.

   Are you implying I've "screamed to mummy"? Tin makes it easy to ignore.
People with GUI newsreaders downing headers over a phone line might get
peeved, but mostly, it's news server administrators that noticed your
crybaby heroics, and most of them noticed quite independently of anyone on
alt.flame (see threads in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet).

> [...]

> >Christ, in all honesty, what *does*
> >Demon think about this? No interest in njetcopping you, you understand,
> >just healthy curiosity on their opinion....

> Judging by the fact they locked that account, it'd be fair to say they took a
> dim view of it. Ho hum...

   Well they're just being touchy. Perhaps they could loan you some of
their PMS meds to help you both cope in this time of crisis. Anyways,
you're a bright bloke (most of the time), so I'm not particularly worried
about you finding the funds to get new accounts, and spam nuking alt.flame
into the ground. I'm simply interested in if your panties are really
*that* twisted over a few cascades.

> >> You can stop this now, however. Simply stop posting cascades to alt.retribution,
> >> and maybe convince the slightly less able amongst your number to do the same and
> >> this can stop here.
> >
> >   Uh, FyRE? There's no unified voice on alt.flame to convince "our
> >number". 

> Then things are looking pretty grim for the flame groups. 

   Seriously. Why, just this week one of the best flamers turned into a
whiney, hormone imbalanced bitch. You might have heard of him... his name
is

> --
> FyRE                      < http://www.tiktok.demon.co.uk >

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