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Article #202Re: NEWS: Up to 2 years for even small panel cell antennas to be approved in San Francisco
From: Larry
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:00
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John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in news:osk0561hjli19tfrgtu12b80anh8i5dj4r@4ax.com: > A seemingly exasperated Jobs addressed the problem in a July 16 press > conference. "When AT&T wants to add a cell tower in, oh, Texas or > somewhere, it takes three weeks to get approval in a typical community. > To get a cell phone tower in San Francisco, it takes something like > three years," he said at the press event to discuss the iPhone 4's > antenna issues two weeks ago. > > I'm a ham radio operator and have been since I was 11 in 1957. I currently hold an Amateur Radio Extra Class License from the FCC with all amateur radio priviledges. Back in the 1980's every little fiefdom from the homeowner's association to the city to the county to the state were writing ordinances/regulations/laws that virtually said ham operators could only have antenna systems THEY approved, no matter if the amateur, who provides emergency communications in time of national disaster, could communicate with other amateurs or not. They didn't care if your radio worked, they cared that noone could see any antenna, at all if they could get away with it. Amateur Radio Relay League, our national ham radio organization that coordinates and lobbies and kisses the bureaucrats' asses to keep us on the air and keep commercial interests, like sellphone companies, from stealing our frequency bands we've had since 1900, with only partial success, objected to all this layer upon layer of local bureaucracy controlling what is a FEDERALLY licensed radio service into uselessness just to please the old lady next door, who blames the ham for every piece of failed electrical and electronic device she ever had. ARRL turned to the FCC, our licensing agency, for some kind of preemptive Federal regulation that would put a stop to the ever-increasing restrictions driving us off the air in may places across the country. After the usual long comment and lobbying period, FCC finally ruled in 1985 with PRB-1, which you can read here: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=prb-1&id=amateur&page=1 There are a few modifications to stop the locals from circumventing PRB- 1 over the years (links to them are on the right of the webpage) but PRB-1 has been most effective at putting a stop to our asshole neighbors banding together to force us off the air, rendering our emergency comms dead. ==============================Back to the topic====================== Now, if the FCC can do for ham radio to put a stop to all this restrictive bullshit of the local bureaucrats, because every cell tower IS an FCC Licensed radio service used for emergency communications in time of disaster, I'm convinced the FCC can simply COPY PRB-1 from part 97, the Amateur Radio Rules......over to Part XX (I forget the number) The Cellular Phone Rules, as it is the SAME problem with the SAME local bureaucrats restricting the antenna structures of FCC Licensed Stations! For this reason, I think we're all being fed a line of company BULLSHIT, to quote Penn & Teller..... If the CTIA WANTED a PRB-1 from the FCC to cover every cell tower in the country, all the CTIA has to do is do the SAME thing the ARRL did. There's no reason why it cannot be done as the PRECIDENCE for this regulation has ALREADY been smoked out, fought out, and successfully been ajudicated by the ARRL and the amateur radio community, that guy down your street with the two 90' monster towers with big beam antennas you've all been blaming for everything for the last 30 years. (You know who you are.) Now, let's use our heads for a minute. NO, silly, not THAT head! Here we sit blaming the city, SF in this case, for NOT allowing ATT to put up a new tower in the middle of the Walmart parking lot. ATT uses the city restrictive ordinances as the EXCUSE to you, to all of us, why the fucking tower has not been erected since 1988 to fill in the hole in their coverage in a less-than-very-profitable neighborhood around the Wally World. YOU suck up and bluster that "it's those goddamned city politicians", getting ATTWS off the hook for installing another cell. They can blame the cities/neighborhoods/etc, FOREVER and won't have to expand their system to cover the area so your shitty iPhone 4 will make solid calls....FOREVER! So, how 'bout it. Do we wonder aloud why the sellphone carrier lobby hasn't gotten PRB-1 extended to include sellphone towers and systems....or do we just swallow this bullshit that everything wrong with the coverage is the "city's fault" all across the country? FCC can wave that same magic wand and we can start FORCING the goddamned carriers to provide SMOOTH, SOLID service in areas they don't want to cover where profits are low and take away that "it's the city's fault" excuse you always get when you talk to them about the big hole on the way to work every day......It's ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Ham Radio Operators! 73 DE W4CSC Charleston, SC. If I can have a tower here.....ATTWS and VERIZON can have a tower here, dammit! -- iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships. Larry
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