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Article #272Re: Consumer Reports: iPhone 4 - Not recommended
From: Jeff Liebermann
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:55
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:55
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:22:10 -0600, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote: >At 18 Jul 2010 09:39:42 -0700 Jeff Liebermann wrote: > >> >You recall wrong. Circa 1992-1994 you could buy a 3 watt bag phone. >> >I'm told that circa 1990 you could buy a 5 watt bag phone. >> >> My memory isn't perfect, but I don't recall any 5 watt bag phones. >> There would have been considerable advertising value to offering the >> most "powerful" phone. There were plenty of MTS and IMTS phones, >> belching 25 watts, but that was much earlier: >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_Mobile_Telephone_Service> >> In the late 1980's, I was selling $2,000 OKI mobile cellular >> telephones on the side. 3 watts maximum. >My memory is hazy as well going back to the late 80's when I was selling >them. IIRC, there were "5 watt" phones initially, but I believe "5 watt" > and "3 watt" phones were the same- IIRC, there was change in the way the >power output spec was defined- maybe a change from "peak" to "average" or >something? Again, it was quite a long time ago! No way. All the AMPS phones were ordinary FM. No amplitude component to offer creative specmanship. Key the xmitter and the average, peak, and RMS RF power output are all identical. >I certainly don't recall any special FCC rules or requirements on "bag >phones," like nospam is talking about. Bag phones were simply car- >mounted phones converted to portable use, and had the same limits as car- >mounted phones- 3W. See my other rant on the subject. Message-ID: <prs646t4slrkfrupjbdd62iq0p2a29hl25@4ax.com> The 1.2 watt limit was for hand-held and transportable half-duplex (i.e. PTT) cellular phones, which nobody bothered to build and sell. It was NOT an FCC imposed limit, which only limits the phones to 7 watts EIRP. However, I suspect that RF exposure limits, which appeared at about that time, probably were the prime motivator. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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