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In article <Whc0o.29891$dx7.18165@newsfe21.iad>, John Slade
<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote:

>          Here's another one for you if you still have trouble 
> understanding.
> 
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9
> 
>           Does that clear it up any?

that shows os x is growing. thanks for proving my point.

>      So all we can go on is sales of Macs and OS usage from the 
> same sources. The sales figures show Apple isn't even in the top 
> five computer makers in worldwide sales.

what that doesn't tell you is that a lot of third world countries don't
buy macs.

now go look at usa market share or europe. worldwide doesn't mean all
that much.

> >>       No it's not. The vast majority of computers sold are not
> >> over $1000.
> >
> > cite a source to back up your claim.
> 
>        As soon as you cite a source that shows most computers 
> cost more than $1000. I mean you saw the actual sales figures 
> and you're still trying to spin this?

so you don't have anything to refute it. got it.

> >>        Complete horse shit. Amazon represents a tiny portion of
> >> all computer sales.
> >
> > maybe so but it's a good indication of what's selling and what isn't.
> 
>        No it's not, actual sales figures compiled from the 
> computer makers themselves is the indicator.

you're forgetting that a lot of those are corporate sales where one guy
is buying 1000 computers in one shot.

apple is weak in that sector, but huge where people buy their own
machines.

like i said, it all depends how you want to count it.

>         But the fact that their growth is phenomenal should tell 
> you that Apple's 15% growth in the US is not much. Let me 
> explain it to you in simpler terms for you. If a company that 
> sells 100 computers a year has 75% growth, it is nothing 
> compared to a company that sells 100,000 computers a year an had 
> 10% growth. Does that clear it up any?

asus growth is due to netbooks, a sector apple does not even
participate! of course it's going to be bigger. duh. 

turn the tables and pick a sector where asus doesn't compete (yet).
apple's tablet sales are much bigger than asus. later this year, asus
will release the eeepad, and asus themselves isn't even predicting
they're going to sell very many.

> >> Since relatively very
> >> few games and applications are produced for OS X(excluding UNIX
> >> software), it's no wonder OS X has seen minuscule gains.
> >
> > why exclude unix software? one huge advantage of os x is that all linux
> > and other unix software runs *natively* alongside all mac software, and
> > also alongside all windows software with vmware. that means a mac can
> > run far more software than a pc can, all on the same box.
> 
>       If you're bringing VMware into it, then you have to 
> include Linux and Unix on Windows systems as well. I'm talking 
> native Windows vs. native OS X software.

which still leaves out mac software. 

let's see how well final cut pro or aperture run on windows.

> > and you'll believe what you want to believe, regardless if the facts
> > show otherwise.
> 
>       I have the actual sales data to back me up. You have 
> nothing but sales figures from a tiny portion of the computer 
> market.

post a link.