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Re: No Activation Required at Best Buy?

#38
From: Nokia Freak 816
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:41
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it is not illegal to buy a locked phone .then unlock it for another
provider..there is no law agaist it..thats your phone...u paid for it...you
own it..thats like saying u got a new car..then them saying you cant put
after market sound system... UNLOCKING is legal..its your property..no
matter what provider it was ment for....
"Michael Yermian" <myermian00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uur0042ienptd7@corp.supernews.com...
> Troll??
>
> If they aren't really ~200+ dollars of cost, then why are unlocked
> phones so expensive??
>
> Do you really think that selling a phone for $25 will gain them profit??
> I'm not saying don't buy one. Obviously you have no idea what the
> context of the post was... it wasn't about purchaing a phone without
> activation ... it was about purchasing it without activation so that the
> person could UNLOCK it and use it on another network! Upgrading is LEGAL
> .. that is why they sell the phones for $25 ... because they are
> reimbursed for their loss by ATTWS ... why? Because the customers stay
> happy when they walk out with a new phone for $25!
>
> You say that if they are dumb enough to sell it then everyone should get
> one? Fine, go ahead... noone is stopping you, but the point I was making
> was that it is unethical and ILLEGAL to purchase it to merely unlock the
> phone... it is called FRAUD moron.
>
> Haven't you ever heard of the phrase "Give the razors for free, make the
> money on the blades?" ... duh, its the same thing here. They lose money
> on a lot of phones they sell, but make up for that with a monthly
> subscription!
>
> Video games function the same way... XBox sold its units for less than
> the cost to make them! They ate the cost... you know why!? Because they
> make money on the games! NOT THE FREAKIN UNITS... now what happens when
> someone decides to NOT purchase ANY games at all, but rather to MOD
> their XBox and download every game... that means Microsoft just lost
> money on a unit and didn't make the profit back... SAME SITUATION HERE!
> If you aren't a customer or don't plan to be one, then why purchase the
> phone!? So you can Illegally use it on another network? Geez... why
> don't you read the entire thread before ranting off at me. So why don't
> >>YOU<< go elsewhere... TROLL!
>
> --
> Michael Y.
>
>
> "Nokia Freak 816" <dmays2@kc.rr.com> wrote in article
> <wQbH9.39742$ry.373879@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>:
> > hey u pay for it..its your to do what ever the hell you want with
it...if
> > there dumb enough to sell the phone to somebody with out
activating..then i
> > say everybody that wants one go for it..come on...everybody knows it
dont
> > cost 200+  to make a phone when there thousands and thousands of every
model
> > being made...if it really was like that...hardly anybody would be able
to
> > afford them..like back in 80's and 90's...like i said if there going to
sell
> > the phone with out activation...i would buy one if i like the model..so
go
> > away troll
> > "Michael Yermian" <myermian00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:uuqegt2pbub498@corp.supernews.com...
> > > So lemme get this straight....
> > > Best Buy made profit on the "marked" up Nokia 8265 that they sold for
> > > $25?
> > > Did they make profit on the times they sold the Pan310 for $30? How
> > > about that N8260 for $25? SE T61LX for a penny --How do you mark that
> > > up??
> > >
> > > WRONG! They don't make profit on phones, and if they did it isn't THAT
> > > big (unless it is a Sprint phone) ... the real money is in commission
> > > for activating or upgrading your phone.
> > >
> > > And the last user wasn't talking about FRAUD for purchasing a phone
for
> > > upgrade... the initial post of the user was on how to buy a subsadized
> > > phone at a low cost so he can unlock it himself (FRAUD!) and use it on
> > > another system...
> > >
> > > I supposed that "burn outs" aren't bad either right? They only hurt
the
> > > company a little bit right? Heck, while we are at it, if anyone wants
> > > to, lets explain how to steal cable for free or even Satellite TV?
> > > Anyone figure out a way how to get free cable modem?
> > >
> > > If cell phones are really that cheap then you should be able to buy an
> > > UNLOCKED phone for a nice price, NOT $300+ ...
> > >
> > > If you REALLY want an unlocked phone, why not purchase it LEGALLY?? I
> > > guess cost is an issue, so it is ok if a BIG company pays the rest for
> > > you right? You pay $100 and they'll take care of the other $100+ ?? I
> > > mean they'll make money on the service -- oh wait, your not activating
> > > it with them! FUN!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Y.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Nokia Freak 816" <dmays2@kc.rr.com> wrote in article
> > > <5%8H9.21700$Fi7.332224@twister.kc.rr.com>:
> > > > every retail store jacks the price up atleast 35%...do you think
stores
> > > > would sell for cell phone companies if they werent making the profit
> > from
> > > > that price stated..no
> > > > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3decbd52$0$22216$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com...
> > > > > Why is that beating the system?  The Ad says no activation
required,
> > than
> > > > > that is that.  I suspect these phones are hugely discounted due to
> > > > inventory
> > > > > volume and perhaps new models in the pipeline.  They are just
hoping
> > that
> > > > > you will get AT&T service (and the fact the phone is locked).
There
> > is
> > > > > nothing stopping you from getting the phone and using it with
existing
> > > > > [AT&T] service
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Veldhouse
> > > > >
> > > > > "KinderCare" <iwi@ffsf.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:te%G9.398$zd1.335578@news.uswest.net...
> > > > > > Make sure you teach your kids how to beat the system. Sit them
down
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > table, in fact nows a good time with XMAS and the Holidays
starting,
> > and
> > > > > > just say "Son, this is how its done. Its OK to commit fraud, and
> > bend
> > > > the
> > > > > > rules. Ethics, naw you wont ever use that stuff"  You people
make me
> > > > ill.
> > > > > > Same ones who also bitch and holler cause they cant get more
> > minutes,
> > > > cant
> > > > > > get through to customer service etc etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bunch of friggin clowns. Thanks for reinforcing why I got out of
> > retail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Nick Hill" <boeingair@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:OIKG9.54949$kz4.2660292@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > > > > > Coolio, thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "David Pivazian" <david@pivazian.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:uumtrh88hq5o76@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why don't you get Sunday's LA Times and there is a BestBuy
Ad
> > inside
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > clear indication that ATT phones are on sale without
activation
> > > > > > > requirement
> > > > > > > > (unless you buy more than one phone.)  You can see for
Cingular
> > and
> > > > > > > T-Mobile
> > > > > > > > phones price tag says "Activation Required."  You can get an
Ad
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > store
> > > > > > > > too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, it is not a mistake or a misprint or lack of experience
of
> > the
> > > > > > clerk,
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > is an agreement between ATT and BestBuy for promotional
sale.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Nick Hill" <boeingair@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:YUpG9.42902$kz4.2176212@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > > > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope you had a happy thanksgiving.  Heard somewhere that
at
> > > > bestbuy,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > buy some phones at the subsidized price without activating
> > them.
> > > > Is
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > true?  I am in So. Cal., so could I get an 8390 from ATT
> > there?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your time!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Nick
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
groups]
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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