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In article <f860o.17561$0A5.16729@newsfe22.iad>, John Slade
<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > microsoft used its monopoly status to squash anything else, and that's
> > why they got in a heap of trouble.
> 
>      Most of the competition was squashed because the put out 
> shitty products.

nope. it was due to microsoft's predatory tactics and they were found
guilty of it in a court of law.

here's another:
<http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRU00634320080227>

>       In other words you can't show me were "more and more" 
> people are switching to OS X.

look at apple's sales numbers. they keep going up and up and they are
outpacing the market as a whole. 

> >> I've been hearing this
> >> same drivel for years and yet OS X market share has been between
> >> 3%-5% of the worldwide base. Now if OS X reaches 20% of the
> >> market, I would be shocked.
> >
> > depends how you count it. market share usually includes pcs that are
> > not desktops, including servers, kiosks, point of sale terminals, etc.
> > look at desktop market share, or retail sales, and you get an entirely
> > different picture.
> >
> > in 2008, it was 14%:
> > <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9069298/Mac_sales_corral_14_of_U.
> > S._computer_market>
> 
>       I'm talking about the worldwide market and this is only 
> about the US market. Guess you didn't read before you posted it.

i guess you didn't read where it depends how you count it, and you're
ignoring that a lot of those pcs are not used on the desktop. 

> > for computers over $1000 (apple doesn't bother with the low end), apple
> > has 91% market share:
> >
> > <http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-10
> > 00-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624>
> 
>         That 91% of computers over $1000 is a very small segment 
> of the market. 

actually it's a significant part of the market.

> And those are retail sales in brick-and-mortar 
> stores. It's also based on revenue and not unit sales. So while 
> this looks good to those who don't know, it really isn't 
> significant as most computer sales are online.

it's actually very significant. most computers sold are over $1000. the
netbook market is the exception.

look at amazon's best selling computers. it changes continually, but
right now, apple has the #1 and #2 spots and four of the top ten. also
not that a $700 mini and $1000 imac is outselling the $300 desktop and
'nettop' in 3rd and 4th places. a few weeks ago, a $2000 imac was in
the top three.

<http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/565098/ref=pd_ts_pc_nav>

over on the portables side, the #1 selling laptop is a macbook, despite
it being nearly twice the price of the ones in 2nd through 5th place.
also, apple has three of the top ten spots there.

<http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/565108/ref=pd_ts_pc_nav>