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In article <KJ90o.17596$0A5.15709@newsfe22.iad>, John Slade
<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > look at apple's sales numbers. they keep going up and up and they are
> > outpacing the market as a whole.
> 
>         But I still don't see the OS X market share growing. 

as i said before, apple's sales are outpacing the market itself, which
means their market share is growing.

here's another, from over two years ago:
<http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9839886-16.html>

  Mac's market share growth is 'nothing short of spectacular'

  Web analyst Net Applications now puts the Mac's market share at 8
  percent, up from 5.3 percent in early 2007. That is stunning growth
  by any measure, especially when you consider that this is 18 percent
  growth in its market share...just since November 2007.

apple outgrew the market in 14 of the last 15 quarters, the only one
they didn't was during the intel transition.
<http://techthoughts.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/apple-laptop-event-0
11.jpg>

> Just for the record, Macs are now part of the PC market share. 
> We're talking OS usage here. It would seem that many of these 
> people who are buying Macs are running Windows at leas part of 
> the time. I always said that when Apple started making clones 
> their sales would go up.

ignoring the fact you have no evidence of whether someone runs os x
exclusively or not, so what if they run windows part of the time? that
means that they run os x the rest of the time.

there's room for both.

> >>          That 91% of computers over $1000 is a very small segment
> >> of the market.
> >
> > actually it's a significant part of the market.
> 
>      No it's not. The vast majority of computers sold are not 
> over $1000.

cite a source to back up your claim.

>       Complete horse shit. Amazon represents a tiny portion of 
> all computer sales.

maybe so but it's a good indication of what's selling and what isn't.

> I suggest you look at HP, Dell, Acer, Lenovo 
> and ASUS sales.

where does it say that the vast majority of computers are under $1000?

> http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS22421910
> 
>        This clearly shows that Apple is not even in the top five 
> in worldwide computer sales. And the growth on the list is ASUS 
> at 83.6% growth. 

that's entirely due to netbooks.

> 91% of the computers costing over $1000 is a 
> tiny portion. 

actually it isn't, but more importantly, it's where the profit is. do
you think asus is making a lot of money selling $200 netbooks? 

> Apple would have to sell many, many more computers 
> to catch any of the big boys. For them to capture significant OS 
> X market share, they have to convince people that OS X is better 
> to have around than Windows XP/Vista/7. 

and they're doing exactly that, as their sales numbers show.

> Since relatively very 
> few games and applications are produced for OS X(excluding UNIX 
> software), it's no wonder OS X has seen minuscule gains.

why exclude unix software? one huge advantage of os x is that all linux
and other unix software runs *natively* alongside all mac software, and
also alongside all windows software with vmware. that means a mac can
run far more software than a pc can, all on the same box.

>       Now if this info doesn't sink in, you'll never understand.

and you'll believe what you want to believe, regardless if the facts
show otherwise.