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On 7/13/2010 11:35 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article<sO%_n.24533$Zi.23243@newsfe14.iad>, John Slade
> <hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote:
>
>>>>         Apple claimed that there was no hardware issue with the
>>>> iPhone's antenna.
>>>
>>> apple said the iphone 4 has the best reception of any phone, something
>>> that anandtech confirmed.
>>
>>            I don't know if this is true or not but it doesn't
>> have that great reception if the person holds  it without duct
>> tape, a case or some other device.
>
> if you don't know if it's true, how do you know it has poor reception,
> especially over someone who *does* use it?

         I don't know if they found the iPhone 4 has the best 
reception of any phone they tested. It has nothing to do with 
the issue at hand. The issue here is the poor design of the 
iPhone 4 and its antenna placement.

>
>>> apple also said there are problems with the
>>> firmware and they're working on fixing it.
>>
>>       Apple claimed it was a problem with the software that gave
>> incorrect readings on the signal strength meter. They put out a
>> patch and claimed that was the real problem behind the problem.
>
> they did say it was a software problem, however, they have *not* put
> out any patch yet. they're working on a solution.

     But before they said that, Apple was telling people they 
were holding it wrong. I don't think they were because how else 
do you hold it to talk on it or use it? I guess it's like Peter 
Lawrence said, they probably didn't test it without a case.

>
>> However many people have implemented the patch and still have
>> the problem. There are videos on the Internet confirming this.
>
> really? what videos confirm people have installed a nonexistent patch?
>

     Well I don't know if the patch is out yet, but that's what 
some people have said. Apple has already admitted that the patch 
will not fix the problem.

>> The antenna is in a bad place, plain and simple.
>
> where else would you put it?

      On the inside, maybe on the top and bottom rather than all 
around. I'm no antenna engineer but I would probably put it 
where people won't touch it by normal use.

>
>>> however, everyone is suddenly an rf engineer and thinks they have all
>>> the answers, even when apple themselves haven't completely figured it
>>> out.
>>
>>       There is nothing to figure out.
>
> yes there is.
>
>>   The antenna is in a bad
>> place. It's around the edge right where people hold it.
>
> as opposed to on the bottom, where people hold it?
>
> <http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/04/nokia-e71-2-reception-issues-
> mmm/>



>
> nokia, sanyo and samsung have warnings how to hold their phones
> properly, probably other brands too.

    What does this have to do with Apple's problem? That's what 
a lot of Mac freaks do, they say "Look someone else has a 
problem!" That's a very lame argument.

    Apple tried to blame the user, then they tried to say the 
problem wasn't hardware. Now they have to admit they screwed up 
in the design.


>
>> This allows me to figure out a couple of things. Apple rushed the
>> iPhone 4 to market without proper testing. They rushed it to
>> market to keep up with companies who are putting out phones that
>> are more advanced than the iPhone. Apple didn't want to fall
>> behind.
>
> nonsense.

     Apple is falling behind and losing sales on the iPhone 4 to 
Android devices. With the multiple problems with the iPhone 4, 
they will never catch up with The Blackberry and Android based 
phones will overtake them in a relatively short time.

>
>>> in short, there are a lot of variables that can affect reception,
>>> antenna placement being just one.
>>
>>        Exactly, Apple put it in the wrong place.
>
> read it again. antenna placement is *one* factor, not the *only* factor.

     It's the main factor here because they put it right where 
people are gonna touch it. Other companies put the antenna on 
the inside or in places that don't get touched with normal use.

John