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Re: Consumer Reports: iPhone 4 - Not recommended

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From: John Slade
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:21
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On 7/13/2010 12:46 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<t_2%n.19132$4B7.18392@newsfe16.iad>, John Slade
> <hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote:
>
>>>> However many people have implemented the patch and still have
>>>> the problem. There are videos on the Internet confirming this.
>>>
>>> really? what videos confirm people have installed a nonexistent patch?
>>
>>       Well I don't know if the patch is out yet,
>
> so why did you say it was?
>
>> but that's what
>> some people have said.
>
> people say a lot of things
>

         Yea they sure do. What I heard was that the firmware 
patch didn't solve the problem so I assumed it was already out.

>
>>>> The antenna is in a bad place, plain and simple.
>>>
>>> where else would you put it?
>>
>>        On the inside, maybe on the top and bottom rather than all
>> around. I'm no antenna engineer but I would probably put it
>> where people won't touch it by normal use.
>
> you're no antenna engineer, yet you have diagnosed the problem and have
> a solution before actual antenna engineers have? how do you explain
> that?

       I'm just that good.

>
>>> nokia, sanyo and samsung have warnings how to hold their phones
>>> properly, probably other brands too.
>>
>>      What does this have to do with Apple's problem? That's what
>> a lot of Mac freaks do, they say "Look someone else has a
>> problem!" That's a very lame argument.
>
> actually it shows how hypocritical people are.

      How? I never said other phones don't have problems.

  >if apple does it, it's
> bad, but when someone else does it, nobody cares. why isn't it a
> problem when nokia or sanyo phones tell you how to hold them properly?

       Because Apple tries to hide the problem and then lie 
about the problem. I've seen other companies do this too but 
nobody does it in a flamboyant way like Apple. I mean you have 
to admit that it takes Apple a long time to admit there are 
problems with their hardware.

>
>>>> This allows me to figure out a couple of things. Apple rushed the
>>>> iPhone 4 to market without proper testing. They rushed it to
>>>> market to keep up with companies who are putting out phones that
>>>> are more advanced than the iPhone. Apple didn't want to fall
>>>> behind.
>>>
>>> nonsense.
>>
>>       Apple is falling behind and losing sales on the iPhone 4 to
>> Android devices.
>
> nope. android is gaining momentum but apple still has a much larger
> market share based on recent surveys. june&  july numbers are not out
> yet. apple sold 2 million iphone 4s in a couple of days, versus a
> couple of weeks for android to do that.

     Yea and I bet a lot of those people regret the purchase. 
Apple sales tend to taper off after the people who camp out at 
stores buy the initial stock. Also most of the iPhone 4 
purchases are people upgrading from their older iPhones. Some 
report said it was over 70% of iPhone 4 purchases were by people 
who owned previous iPhones. So I can see how Android can 
overtake them in a year or two given the gains by Android in the 
previous year.


>
>> With the multiple problems with the iPhone 4,
>> they will never catch up with The Blackberry and Android based
>> phones will overtake them in a relatively short time.
>
> blackberry is faltering. android probably will overtake apple in unit
> sales but so what?

       Great argument "but so what"... Priceless.

John
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