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I am a teacher in France and I have difficulties in believing what I read
about the drastic rules in Texas!!! In the school where I work, the pupils
who are from 16 to 21 and who are supposed to have social troubles in life
(but who hasn't?) are perfectly aware of the nuisance a cell phone can
cause. It is not a matter of  independence nor freedom, it is a simple
matter of civility and know-how-to-live-together. Rules shouldn't take the
path on basic respect of spoken communication and most particularly at
school. Thanks for the precious subjects of reflection you gave us here.
Isabelle
Austin Locke <alocke@mindless.com> a �crit dans le message :
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> I believe Marcus is from Scandinavia where cell phone usage is just a tad
> more prevalent than in North America.
>
>
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> Austin
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> mystic <mystic@lcc.net> wrote in message news:3830E698.6089@lcc.net...
> > Marcus AAkesson wrote:
> > >
> > > oNkYo wrote:
> > >
> > > >Does teachers and administrators have the right to confiscate them?
> > >
> > > Probably depends on where You are!
> > >
> > > Here, the answer is No. They have no right to confiscate anything that
> is
> > > not illegal in a public place, like firearms and knifes.
> >
> > Every district has different rules.  If students bring banned articles
> > onto campus, the teachers have EVERY right to confiscate them during
> > classtime  --  students in our district can pick them up in the office
> > at the end of the school day.  If they continue to bring banned articles
> > to class, it is considered to be an infraction of school rules and, as
> > such, can be punished with a disciplinary slip, time in DMC (in-school
> > detention) or (with parental permission) corporal punishment.  Do
> > teachers have the right to KEEP the articles they confiscate?  No.
> >
> > >
> > > If school regulations prohibits phones within the building, they can
> tell
> > > You to stop using it, and if refused, contact the parents or
ultimately
> ban
> > > You from attending class. They have no parental rights at all.
> > >
> >
> > Wrong.  To refuse a reasonable teacher directive (in this case, to
> > follow  school rules) is a direct infraction of school rules.  If I were
> > you, I'd look closely at the disciplinary plan of your school.
> > As for whether teachers have any parental rights at all  --  what would
> > these be?  The power to take stuff away from you?  The power to keep you
> > safe?  There are many situations during school activities (such as
> > school trips) where, under most states' laws, teachers DO stand 'in loco
> > parentis', meaning that we are responsible for your safety.
> >
> >
> > > Another related question is smoking. While it is not allowed to smoke
in
> the
> > > buildings or on school property, they can't take away your cigarettes,
> not
> > > even if You brake the rules and smoke indoors. They can throw You out,
> but
> > > not take the cigs.
> >
> > Again, check your district.  In most Texas school districts, tobacco is
> > an illegal substance that cannot evn be possessed by persons under the
> > age of 18.  So teachers (in fact, anyone employed by the district) CAN
> > confiscate your cigarettes, and you won't even be able to pick them up
> > at the end of the day. Instead, you'll be charged with possession of
> > tobacco and probably do three days in DMC, plus you might be charged in
> > juvenile court and have to pay a fine.
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, if using a phone was equal to selling drugs, they would have
serios
> > > problems here since around 80% of 14-18-year-olds have phones.
Problems
> in
> > > class? Shure! Talking/ringing is of course not a major issue, but a
lot
> of
> > > people keep sending and receiving SMS while in class.
> > >
> > > /Marcus
> >
> > 80%?  Whew, where did you get THOSE figures?  You've obviously led a
> > very sheltered life.  Again, you'd better check your district.  In most
> > of those in Texas, you'd have to kiss that cell phone goodbye  --  and
> > if you brought it to school more than once, you'd be charged, sent to
> > alternative school (where you can't even bring GUM into class), and your
> > parents would probably be out several hundred dollars in court costs.
> >
> > Appleman
>
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