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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:09:06 -0700, "tdma@nospam.hotmail.com"
<tdma@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime
>
>Fido
>$323 PCS Phone + licence fee + sim card
>$40.00 basic fee, 400 minutes plus 2100 extra minutes @ $0.20 a minute =
>$420
>$460 = $420 + $40.00 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$149 PCS Phone
>$120 basic fee, 600 minutes included + free weekends + 2100 extra
>minutes @ $0.20 a minute = $20
>$540 = $420 + $120 = total monthly fee with ClearNET
>
>Cantel
>$250 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$280 basic fee, 3000 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$280 = Total monthly fee with Cantel
>
>BCTEL
>$140 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$275 basic fee, 2500 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$275 = Total monthly fee with BCTel

The figures for Clearnet are actually much lower than stated above for
this option.  The actual cost should be:

Clearnet
$149 PCS Phone
$120 basic fee, 600 minutes included + free weekends + >>1900<< extra
minutes @ >>$0.15<< a minute + $4.50 monthly license fee = $289.50
(Clearnet's $120 package charges $0.15 for extra time, not $0.20)
$409.50 = $289.50 + $120 = total monthly fee with ClearNET


============================================================
Nicholas Manara (NOSPAMmanara@intergate.bc.ca)
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ROTFL *-)

Hey 'tdma@nospam.hotmail.com', you might want to change your handset pricing
to reflect new market conditions.

Additionally, check the Yankee Group usage reports for average user spec's
(eg. time usage, peak/non peak, etc.., heavy/medium/low users), and their
comparison of all carriers in N.America.

Like I said before, if you can't stand to hear the dog bark, you're standing
to close.

tdma@nospam.hotmail.com wrote in message
<35F815C1.5028E824@nospam.hotmail.com>...
>
>
>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime
>
>Fido
>$323 PCS Phone + licence fee + sim card
>$40.00 basic fee, 400 minutes plus 2100 extra minutes @ $0.20 a minute =
>$420
>$460 = $420 + $40.00 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$149 PCS Phone
>$120 basic fee, 600 minutes included + free weekends + 2100 extra
>minutes @ $0.20 a minute = $20
>$540 = $420 + $120 = total monthly fee with ClearNET
>
>Cantel
>$250 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$280 basic fee, 3000 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$280 = Total monthly fee with Cantel
>
>BCTEL
>$140 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$275 basic fee, 2500 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$275 = Total monthly fee with BCTel
>
>
>
>Medium User - 10 hours in daytime, 3 hours of weekends
>
>Fido
>$40 basic fee 400 minutes incl plus 380 extra minutes @ $0.20 a minute =
>$76
>$116 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$120 basic fee 600 minutes incl plus free weekends included
>$120 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel
>$170 basic fee 1000 minutes incl plus free weekends
>$170 total monthly fee with Cantel
>
>BCTel
>$35.95 basic fee 100 minutes incl plus free weekends plus 500 extra
>minutes @ $0.20 a minute =  $100
>$135.95 total monthly fee with BCTel
>
>
>Casual Non Business User-  1 hour of daytime, 10 hours of weekends
>
>Fido
>$40.00 basic fee 400 minutes included plus 260 extra minutes @ $0.20 a
>minute = $52
>$92 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$30.00 basic fee 100 minutes included plus free weekends
>$30.00 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel/Bctel
>$25.95 basic fee 60 minutes of daytime @ $0.55 a minute = $33 plus free
>weekends
>$58.00 total monthly fee with Cantel/BCtel
>
>
>Extremely Casual User - half hour daytime and 2 hours weekends
>Fido
>$40.00 basic fee 400 minutes included
>$40.00 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$30.00 basic fee  including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>$30.00 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel
>$45.00 basic fee including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>
>BCtel
>$35.95 basic fee including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>
>Bought  a Cell Phone Primarily Call Home To your wife (husband?)  User
>--- call(or in bound)  half hour during lunch time every day to any
>number. for 1 call of each of  22 business days each month.
>
>Fido
>$40.00 400 minutes included plus 260 extra minutes $0.20 a minute = $52
>$92 total monthly fee with Fido
>
>Clearnet
>$120 including 600 minutes plus free weekends
>
>Cantel
>$132 for 632 minutes anytime.
>
>BCtel
>$30 a month. free weekends plus 30 calls inbound/outbound during peak
>time with NO TIME LIMIT.
>
>
>Exceptions
>*only with Bell & Bctel - when you buy two cell phones from the same
>company and call each other, the receiver will NOT Be charged for
>airtime. Note that the two phones only need to be from the same
>provider, but NOT required to be on the same billing account*. With
>Cantel/Clearnet/Fido however, when you call each other , BOTH sides must
>pay, which can add up to $0.40 a minute instead of $0.25 a minute
>

tdma@nospam.hotmail.com wrote:
>[...] 
> Extremely Casual User - half hour daytime and 2 hours weekends
> Fido
> $40.00 basic fee 400 minutes included
> $40.00 total monthly fee with Fido

In this particular case, you're better off if you use Fido's $20 / 100
minute service, so the amount becomes:

$20.00 basic fee 100 minutes included plus 50 extra minutes @
$0.20/minute =$10
$30.00 total monthly fee with Fido

Dear tdma,

I think giving examples of plans for potential customers is a really good
idea. You seem to follow this issue quite a bit. Why don't you make a web
page with tables to compare the different plans? We could all e-mail you
letting you know of new deals out there and this would become a constant
source of info for the latest deals in the Canadian cellular/PCS market.

Steve Punter's site http://www.arcx.com/sites/Chart.htm has lots on the
features, but not so much on price plans for different types of users.

Coming back to your comparisons, here's a little known feature of the
Fido/GSM/sim card: You can purchase many accounts from Fido and compound the
savings. If you are mostly in digital and 400 minutes is not enough: the
plan is scalable. You just get 2 or more sim cards. When you get up to your
400 minutes, just forward all calls to your new sim card, and pop it in.
Call forward is free (unlimited)

It's a little more work, but it might be worth it.

800 min: 80$
1200 min 120$
1600 min 160$
2000 min 200$
2400 min 240$
...

Also, the figures you mention are for the Nokia 6190, a truly fantastic
phone with a very good battery life. However, Fido just introduced the 5190,
which has a few less features but at 150$ including analog module, it's a
steal!

With this in mind, I'd like to go over the figures.


>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime
>
>Fido
>$323 PCS Phone + licence fee + sim card
>$40.00 basic fee, 400 minutes plus 2100 extra minutes @ $0.20 a minute =
>$420
>$460 = $420 + $40.00 total monthly fee with Fido


$198 Nokia 5190 75$, analog module 75$, licence 48$
$40 basic fee 400 min incl + (40$ x 5 = 2000min  + 20$ for another 100 min)
$260 Total monthly fee with Fido

>
>Clearnet
>$149 PCS Phone
>$120 basic fee, 600 minutes included + free weekends + 2100 extra
>minutes @ $0.20 a minute = $20
>$540 = $420 + $120 = total monthly fee with ClearNET
>

No license for Clearnet?

>Cantel
>$250 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$280 basic fee, 3000 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$280 = Total monthly fee with Cantel
>
>BCTEL
>$140 PCS Phone + licence fee
>$275 basic fee, 2500 minutes included PLUS unlimited weekends
>$275 = Total monthly fee with BCTel
>
>
>
>Medium User - 10 hours in daytime, 3 hours of weekends
>
>Fido
>$40 basic fee 400 minutes incl plus 380 extra minutes @ $0.20 a minute =
>$76
>$116 total monthly fee with Fido
>
$40 +40$= $80/month


>Clearnet
>$120 basic fee 600 minutes incl plus free weekends included
>$120 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel
>$170 basic fee 1000 minutes incl plus free weekends
>$170 total monthly fee with Cantel
>
>BCTel
>$35.95 basic fee 100 minutes incl plus free weekends plus 500 extra
>minutes @ $0.20 a minute =  $100
>$135.95 total monthly fee with BCTel
>
>
>Casual Non Business User-  1 hour of daytime, 10 hours of weekends
>
>Fido
>$40.00 basic fee 400 minutes included plus 260 extra minutes @ $0.20 a
>minute = $52
>$92 total monthly fee with Fido


Here again, you're better of with 40$ + 40$ = 80$ for 800 minutes

>
>Clearnet
>$30.00 basic fee 100 minutes included plus free weekends
>$30.00 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel/Bctel
>$25.95 basic fee 60 minutes of daytime @ $0.55 a minute = $33 plus free
>weekends
>$58.00 total monthly fee with Cantel/BCtel
>
>
>Extremely Casual User - half hour daytime and 2 hours weekends
>Fido
>$40.00 basic fee 400 minutes included
>$40.00 total monthly fee with Fido


Why not go with the 20$ 100 minute and ad 70 min x $0.20= 14$

Total: 34$/month

>
>Clearnet
>$30.00 basic fee  including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>$30.00 total monthly fee with Clearnet
>
>Cantel
>$45.00 basic fee including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>
>BCtel
>$35.95 basic fee including 100 minutes daytime and free weekends
>
>Bought  a Cell Phone Primarily Call Home To your wife (husband?)  User
>--- call(or in bound)  half hour during lunch time every day to any
>number. for 1 call of each of  22 business days each month.
>
>Fido
>$40.00 400 minutes included plus 260 extra minutes $0.20 a minute = $52
>$92 total monthly fee with Fido
>

Here again, 2 x 40$ for 800 minutes would be better.


>Clearnet
>$120 including 600 minutes plus free weekends
>
>Cantel
>$132 for 632 minutes anytime.
>
>BCtel
>$30 a month. free weekends plus 30 calls inbound/outbound during peak
>time with NO TIME LIMIT.
>
>
>Exceptions
>*only with Bell & Bctel - when you buy two cell phones from the same
>company and call each other, the receiver will NOT Be charged for
>airtime. Note that the two phones only need to be from the same
>provider, but NOT required to be on the same billing account*. With
>Cantel/Clearnet/Fido however, when you call each other , BOTH sides must
>pay, which can add up to $0.40 a minute instead of $0.25 a minute
>


As you see, the scalability of GSM makes Fido a whole lot more competitive!!

There are also other considerations on Fido's side: second by second
billing, once the connection is established. Please see:
http://www.arcx.com/sites/Free.htm


Best regards


Marc
Nokia 6190 with the 'Mission Impossible' ring tone

>once we make contacts, i usually go to pay phone

Boy, you just don't get the idea of a mobile phone do you?
-- 
Steve Punter
www.arcx.com/sites

De Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:41:45 GMT, Nicholas Manara
<NOSPAMcurious@canadamail.com> a �crit dans le message:

>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:09:06 -0700, "tdma@nospam.hotmail.com"
><tdma@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>


>>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime


who actually uses 2500 minutes ??    I am curious.  I don't even use a
minute a day...   once we make contacts, i usually go to pay phone or
if I am at home, I use my residential phone line.



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> 
> De Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:41:45 GMT, Nicholas Manara
> <NOSPAMcurious@canadamail.com> a �crit dans le message:
> 
> >On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:09:06 -0700, "tdma@nospam.hotmail.com"
> ><tdma@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> 
> >>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime
> 
> who actually uses 2500 minutes ??    I am curious.  I don't even use a
> minute a day...   once we make contacts, i usually go to pay phone or
> if I am at home, I use my residential phone line.
> 

Probably someone all the time on the road and doing a lot of business on
the phone.  Or someone who talked a lot with is girlfriend. :)

Stephane

>
> > >>Ultra High User - 2500 minutes per month in daytime
> >
> > who actually uses 2500 minutes ??    I am curious.  I don't even use a
> > minute a day...   once we make contacts, i usually go to pay phone or
> > if I am at home, I use my residential phone line.

Who? real estate agents, people like that.

I myself use about 100 minutes in daytime each month, plus 5000 minutes of
weekends/evenings(free)

No I am not a salesperson.

>
> >
>
> Probably someone all the time on the road and doing a lot of business on
> the phone.  Or someone who talked a lot with is girlfriend. :)
>
> Stephane

Here's another funny plan
http://www.sasktelmobility.com/html/primetime.html

if you calculate it, it works out to approx. $150 a month for UNLIMITED
CELLULAR airtime anytime per month. Thats even better priced than the
Cantel/BCtel ultra-high user plans!

Unfortunately there are as many usage patterns as there are subscribers.
Although such a table would be useful for some, it couldn't possibly address
all the different combinations and permutations of usage. Most advice
concerning the price of packages usually comes down to a vague reference to
"it depends upon when you use your phone the most".
--
Steve Punter
www.arcx.com/sites

>plus 5000 minutes of weekends/evenings

You don't have much of a life do you? That's 83 hours a month, or an AVERAGE
of 2.75 hours EACH AND EVERY DAY.
--
Steve Punter
www.arcx.com/sites

Unless you do telemarketing from your PCS phone. :)

Steve Punter wrote in message <6tep1q$4te$1@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>>plus 5000 minutes of weekends/evenings
>
>You don't have much of a life do you? That's 83 hours a month, or an
AVERAGE
>of 2.75 hours EACH AND EVERY DAY.
>--
>Steve Punter
>www.arcx.com/sites
>