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Re: The JF Mezei FAQ - 052004

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From: jen
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:29
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In article <c5382ea6d7e025679c17a04a185a01fb@news.teranews.com>, 
nobody@nobody.org says...
> jen wrote:
> > Sorry, JF, that would be contrary to the open, collaborative nature of
> > Usenet.
> 
> check the charter for comp.os.vms, can.highspeed.internet, alt.cellular.fido
> and tell me how your discussiosn are relevant to those newsgroups.

No.

> > It's up to each individual to judge the relevance of his or her posts to
> > the target newsgroups; I feel that my words are relevant to all, so I
> > will share them accordingly. 
> 
> Nop. Check the charters for each newsgroups. If you do not normally
> participate in a newsgroup, you have no business crossposting your views to
> that newsgroup, especially if your views are not relevant to that newsgroup's purpose.

Since there is no access control mechanism in-place for those newsgroups, 
I only have to post to them in order to participate; therefore, I am 
actively participating right now.  To set up a private, controlled forum 
where you can control what is posted by whom, you need to take it to the 
web.

> This is not a freedom of speech issue.

Oh, I heartily disagree.

> You have perfect right to post whatever
> you want, as long as it is in a relevant newsgroup.

And that is precisely what I am doing right now.

> By purposefully cross posting to irrelevant newsgroup and ignoring requests to
> stop cross posting, you are clearly intent on harming USenet instead of
> helping it.

Wrong.  I feel that parts of this thread contained posts that were 
explicitly, or at least implicitly, relevant to every single one of the 
newsgroups in the header.  I don't need a "charter" or other silly set of 
rules to tell me that -- Usenet's open, collaborative nature is such that 
each individual poster decides relevance.  For example, I am crossposting 
this message to all those newsgroups because I think that everybody who 
regularly visits them might be interested in reading this educational 
little discussion that we are having right now.  Anybody who feels 
otherwise may ignore my posts and, if desired, add me to their killfile.
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Subject: Re: The JF Mezei FAQ - 052004
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