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8 total messages Started by Fabio Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:17
SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1463
Author: Fabio
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:17
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Please, does anyone know if it is possible doing the following:

1) Send an SMS from a European GSM phone to a USA GSM phone and vice versa
2) Send an SMS from a European GSM phone to a USA CDMA or TDMA phone and
vice versa
3) Send an SMS from a USA GSM phone to a USA CDMA or TDMA phone and vice
versa

That is because I tried to send an SMS from Italy with my italian phone to
some numbers in the USA
(I do not know the standards and carriers of these phones) but without
success.

Thank you very much everybody.

Fabio
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1464
Author: moua
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:28
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You will not get the same resulft from/to all operators il all europeans
country.

Here in France, in most of cases, you can't RECEIVE sms from other country,
simply besause sending sms in somes country is cheaper, or free (here in
France it's 10~15 cents)
and marketing compagny can use non-french SMSC without pay anything to
french operator...
so, french operator block most of them :(
but we can SEND sms to the world.

PS : by the contract of 1992, operators can't invoice indication data (used
by sms) to other operator,
so... sending a sms to usa is free for my operator, but i must pay for it :(

[moua]
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1465
Author: eMeL
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:47
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"moua" <usenet@numea.com.N0SPAM> wrote in message
news:3d3bec59$0$1481$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net...

> Here in France, in most of cases, you can't RECEIVE sms from other country,
> simply besause sending sms in somes country is cheaper, or free (here in
> France it's 10~15 cents)

How true!
True also in Spain and on some other European networks.
Good that you can at least send, abroad 'cuz some (few, but still...) operators
in Europe block this capability as well..


> "sending a sms to usa is free for my operator"

Hardly...
You take up some bandwidth sending it, they need to maintain SMSC, relay the
message overseas, etc., and perhaps even send you a return receipt...  All that
costs *something*...

Michael
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1466
Author: NoFire
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:57
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"eMeL" <badbatz99@hotmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
ujntmgf519qt7e@corp.supernews.com...
> "moua" <usenet@numea.com.N0SPAM> wrote in message
> news:3d3bec59$0$1481$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net...
>
> > Here in France, in most of cases, you can't RECEIVE sms from other
country,
> > simply besause sending sms in somes country is cheaper, or free (here in
> > France it's 10~15 cents)
>
> How true!
> True also in Spain and on some other European networks.
> Good that you can at least send, abroad 'cuz some (few, but still...)
operators
> in Europe block this capability as well..
>
>
> > "sending a sms to usa is free for my operator"
>
> Hardly...
> You take up some bandwidth sending it, they need to maintain SMSC, relay
the
> message overseas, etc., and perhaps even send you a return receipt...  All
that
> costs *something*...
>
> Michael
>

Donc si j'ai bien compris certain op�rateurs (avec entre les trois
op�rateurs francais) ne transmettent pas les messages venant de l'�tranger
sous pretexte qu'ils sont moins cher ailleur ???,
NoFire
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1460
Author: moua
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:04
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Nofire : Yes, but try to write in english,
American, spanish, and french can't all read your post.

eMel :
All cost something, yes... but
when you CALL 5minutes from Orange France  to Verizion,
Orange F transfert some money to Verizion,
when you send a sms from Orange F to Verizion,
Orange F transfert nothing to Verizion, and Verizion
don't have the right for ask money for it,
but if they whant, they can block sms from Orange F...

[moua]
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1461
Author: Serg_Lop
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:46
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   Try sending using a "modem" SMS centre and a software the can contact 
that centre.

Sergy

moua wrote:

> Nofire : Yes, but try to write in english,
> American, spanish, and french can't all read your post.
> 
> eMel :
> All cost something, yes... but
> when you CALL 5minutes from Orange France  to Verizion,
> Orange F transfert some money to Verizion,
> when you send a sms from Orange F to Verizion,
> Orange F transfert nothing to Verizion, and Verizion
> don't have the right for ask money for it,
> but if they whant, they can block sms from Orange F...
> 
> [moua]
> 
> 
Re: SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1462
Author: Miguel
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:49
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"eMeL" <badbatz99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ujntmgf519qt7e@corp.supernews.com...
> "moua" <usenet@numea.com.N0SPAM> wrote in message
> news:3d3bec59$0$1481$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net...
>
> > Here in France, in most of cases, you can't RECEIVE sms from other
country,
> > simply besause sending sms in somes country is cheaper, or free (here in
> > France it's 10~15 cents)
>
> How true!
> True also in Spain and on some other European networks.

I have to correct you: in general, it isn't true in Spain. With my O2 and
Orange SIMs (in the UK), I can receive sms from any Spanish network. With O2
I can only send sms to MoviStar ("Telef�nica M�viles"), but all sms's sent
through Orange are delivered.

> Good that you can at least send, abroad 'cuz some (few, but still...)
operators
> in Europe block this capability as well..
>
>
> > "sending a sms to usa is free for my operator"
>
> Hardly...
> You take up some bandwidth sending it, they need to maintain SMSC, relay
the
> message overseas, etc., and perhaps even send you a return receipt...  All
that
> costs *something*...
>
> Michael
>
>

Cheers,

Miguel
SMS between Europe and USA, and within USA
#1459
Author: Fabio
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:23
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Thank you everybody for your help!

Fabio
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