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I have the same problem, some work some don't....never found out what it is.
but it seems to be more common with longer midi files.



"Daniel Juhn" <j.u.h.n.remove.the.periods@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> what causes the phone to display this message?
> i used nokia's sound converter to play around with the polyphony values,
and
> it plays back as i want it to from inside the program, but after i send it
> to my 6100, it doesnt playback from in the phone.
> i have .mid files that work fine with both larger file size, and with a
> higher calc cumulative polyphony value...
> anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? happens with a number of
> tones...
>
>
> cheers,
>
> daniel.
>
>

AFAIK, it's not about "longer" MIDI Files, but about "bigger" MIDI Files.

The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to about
8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the exception...)

Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...

HTH
    Gottfried


"Alistair" <alistairbarclayspamnot@ednet.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I have the same problem, some work some don't....never found out what it
is.
> but it seems to be more common with longer midi files.
>
>
>
> "Daniel Juhn" <j.u.h.n.remove.the.periods@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
message
> news:3e883506$0$12180$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > what causes the phone to display this message?
> > i used nokia's sound converter to play around with the polyphony values,
> and
> > it plays back as i want it to from inside the program, but after i send
it
> > to my 6100, it doesnt playback from in the phone.
> > i have .mid files that work fine with both larger file size, and with a
> > higher calc cumulative polyphony value...
> > anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? happens with a number of
> > tones...
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > daniel.
> >
> >
>
>

don't agree with that at all..

I have

Eminem - Stan thats 29.9 KB and it plays fine.
Jewel - Hands 23.8KB also plays fine

and a few others that are 8-10 KB and less


Alistair


"Gottfried Mayer" <ngs@NOfusedSPAM.ch> wrote in message
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> AFAIK, it's not about "longer" MIDI Files, but about "bigger" MIDI Files.
>
> The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to about
> 8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the exception...)
>
> Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...
>
> HTH
>     Gottfried
>
>
> "Alistair" <alistairbarclayspamnot@ednet.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:v8gdid8n04fnba@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have the same problem, some work some don't....never found out what it
> is.
> > but it seems to be more common with longer midi files.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Daniel Juhn" <j.u.h.n.remove.the.periods@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> message
> > news:3e883506$0$12180$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > what causes the phone to display this message?
> > > i used nokia's sound converter to play around with the polyphony
values,
> > and
> > > it plays back as i want it to from inside the program, but after i
send
> it
> > > to my 6100, it doesnt playback from in the phone.
> > > i have .mid files that work fine with both larger file size, and with
a
> > > higher calc cumulative polyphony value...
> > > anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? happens with a number of
> > > tones...
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > daniel.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Unconfirmed reports are flooding in that Alistair was seen punching
various keys on their keyboard and produced the following:
||| AFAIK, it's not about "longer" MIDI Files, but about "bigger" MIDI
||| Files.
|||
||| The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to
||| about 8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the
||| exception...)
|||
||| Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...

|| don't agree with that at all..
||
|| I have
||
|| Eminem - Stan thats 29.9 KB and it plays fine.
|| Jewel - Hands 23.8KB also plays fine
||
|| and a few others that are 8-10 KB and less

I agree with Alistair, it's not the size of the ringtone that's the problem.
I think it's something to do with the SF-Midi configuration of the file. The
computer understands it, but the phone doesn't and views it as corrupt. I've
found that by deleting the SF-Midi configurations the file *sometimes*
works.

However, there is a limit on the size of the file that you can download via
WAP, AFAIK this limit is 8k.
--
Chris Michael
www.INTOmobiles.com
Free ringtones/logos
Free mobile alerts
2 months free insurance

I think the actual reason is the number of "instruments" in the midi file, i
think i read the 6610 only supports 4 instruments per midi file.


"Chris Michael" <chris.michael@REMOVEMEintomobiles.com> wrote in message
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> Unconfirmed reports are flooding in that Alistair was seen punching
> various keys on their keyboard and produced the following:
> ||| AFAIK, it's not about "longer" MIDI Files, but about "bigger" MIDI
> ||| Files.
> |||
> ||| The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to
> ||| about 8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the
> ||| exception...)
> |||
> ||| Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...
>
> || don't agree with that at all..
> ||
> || I have
> ||
> || Eminem - Stan thats 29.9 KB and it plays fine.
> || Jewel - Hands 23.8KB also plays fine
> ||
> || and a few others that are 8-10 KB and less
>
> I agree with Alistair, it's not the size of the ringtone that's the
problem.
> I think it's something to do with the SF-Midi configuration of the file.
The
> computer understands it, but the phone doesn't and views it as corrupt.
I've
> found that by deleting the SF-Midi configurations the file *sometimes*
> works.
>
> However, there is a limit on the size of the file that you can download
via
> WAP, AFAIK this limit is 8k.
> --
> Chris Michael
> www.INTOmobiles.com
> Free ringtones/logos
> Free mobile alerts
> 2 months free insurance
>
>

Unconfirmed reports are flooding in that Jamie Conway was seen punching
various keys on their keyboard and produced the following:
|| I think the actual reason is the number of "instruments" in the midi
|| file, i think i read the 6610 only supports 4 instruments per midi
|| file.

True, the 6610 and various other series 40 phones only support 4 channel
polyphony (what you refered to as 4 instruments is in fact 4 notes being
played at the same time, you can't have a piano playing a five note chord
for example, it'll only play 4 of the notes).  However, if you upload a
ringtone with more than 4 channels the phone will automatically play the 1st
4 only.

I think the SF-Midi instructions, which tells the phone which channels and
how many notes to play, is corrupted and the phone can't read it to play it.

--
Chris Michael
www.INTOmobiles.com
Free ringtones/logos
Free mobile alerts
2 months free insurance

> I think the actual reason is the number of "instruments" in the midi file,
i
> think i read the 6610 only supports 4 instruments per midi file.

wrong.
you can edit the polyphony values and have a lot more than 4 instruments in
the file... just cant have them all playing in one go.

> The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to about
> 8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the exception...)
>
> Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...

its more than a single exception. the majority of my tones are in excess of
20kb.

In aus.comms.mobile Chris Michael <chris.michael@removemeintomobiles.com> wrote:

> ||| AFAIK, it's not about "longer" MIDI Files, but about "bigger" MIDI
> ||| Files.
> |||
> ||| The Series 40 Phones (7210/6610/6100/...) support MIDI-Files up to
> ||| about 8kB. (I have 20kB Midi's that work fine, but that's the
> ||| exception...)
> |||
> ||| Files bigger than 7.5kB tend not to play...
> 
> || don't agree with that at all..
> ||

did you go through and change all those '>'s to '|'s by hand???

how weird's that???!!!

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:09:54 +0100, "Alistair"
<alistairbarclayspamnot@ednet.co.uk> wrote:

>don't agree with that at all..
>
>I have
>
>Eminem - Stan thats 29.9 KB and it plays fine.
>Jewel - Hands 23.8KB also plays fine
>
>and a few others that are 8-10 KB and less

There is more than 1 midi file standard: Standard midi and Extended
midi - with different number of channels and using different numbered
channels for drums.  Could have something to do with it.


Albert Alcoceba
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