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Re: NEWS: US edges towards mobile antitrust case

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From: Ness-Net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:01
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"John Blutarsky" <bluto@faber.com> wrote in message news:Xns9C47AD5F6D90Dblutofabercom@85.214.113.135...
> nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in
> news:87hbxge5af.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net: 
> 
>> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> writes:
>> 
>>> "Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:871vol5ori.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net... 
>>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in
>>>>> news:87prc5wlrs.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in
>>>>>>> news:87eisl3o4f.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boost charges $50 for unlimited voice.  But now you are arguing
>>>>>>>>> in circles, as yo have claimed many times that pricing for
>>>>>>>>> voice has no place in this discussion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't.  The issue was the high charge for text messages,
>>>>>>>> not "unlimited plans" where you may end up paying for more than
>>>>>>>> you need. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why did you sudduenly bring voice prices into the
>>>>>>> conversation? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't, aside from using voice prices to set an upper bound on
>>>>>> the cost of a text message - estimating it as being roughly
>>>>>> equivalent to 1/4 seconds of a voice call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How did you come up with that estimate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess you don't know very much about the technology. :-) With the
>>>> level of compression they use, it takes roughly a kilobyte per
>>>> second to handle a voice call (more is better of course).  So figure
>>>> on 250 bytes for the text message (message text + overhead such as
>>>> the destination phone number and other protocol-specific data).
>>>>
>>>> That will get you fairly close to the actual number, assuming the
>>>> cost of voice service is realistic.
>>>
>>> As one who DOES "know very much about the technology" it is VERY
>>> obvious - you DON'T!
>> 
>> It is pretty damn obvious to me that you are have never learned how
>> to estimate things.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Don't you get it, LJ?  He doesn't have to estimate- he KNOWS the associated 
> costs.

Thank you - someone gets it... 
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