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Article #56Re: NEWS: US edges towards mobile antitrust case
From: Ness-Net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:01
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:01
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"John Blutarsky" <bluto@faber.com> wrote in message news:Xns9C47AD5F6D90Dblutofabercom@85.214.113.135... > nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in > news:87hbxge5af.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net: > >> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> writes: >> >>> "Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message >>> news:871vol5ori.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net... >>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in >>>>> news:87prc5wlrs.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net: >>>>> >>>>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote in >>>>>>> news:87eisl3o4f.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Boost charges $50 for unlimited voice. But now you are arguing >>>>>>>>> in circles, as yo have claimed many times that pricing for >>>>>>>>> voice has no place in this discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It doesn't. The issue was the high charge for text messages, >>>>>>>> not "unlimited plans" where you may end up paying for more than >>>>>>>> you need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then why did you sudduenly bring voice prices into the >>>>>>> conversation? >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't, aside from using voice prices to set an upper bound on >>>>>> the cost of a text message - estimating it as being roughly >>>>>> equivalent to 1/4 seconds of a voice call. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How did you come up with that estimate? >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess you don't know very much about the technology. :-) With the >>>> level of compression they use, it takes roughly a kilobyte per >>>> second to handle a voice call (more is better of course). So figure >>>> on 250 bytes for the text message (message text + overhead such as >>>> the destination phone number and other protocol-specific data). >>>> >>>> That will get you fairly close to the actual number, assuming the >>>> cost of voice service is realistic. >>> >>> As one who DOES "know very much about the technology" it is VERY >>> obvious - you DON'T! >> >> It is pretty damn obvious to me that you are have never learned how >> to estimate things. >> >> > > Don't you get it, LJ? He doesn't have to estimate- he KNOWS the associated > costs. Thank you - someone gets it...
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