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Hyper wrote in message <37C07159.BF9F18F1@snip.net>...
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>> > At the DOS prompt,
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>> Hardly anyone uses the DOS prompt anymore. Dinosaur stuff.
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>actually i use a dos prompt every single day, at least once, as do almost all
>techs when having to troubleshoot drive problems and windows problems, so ha
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>> > I can go from a directory three levels deep on one
>> > drive, to a directory five levels deep on another drive.
>> > I can go back and forth just by typing the drive letter.
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>> And its even easier with shortcuts etc. The world's moved on.
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>not really, the guys who actually know what we're doing still use dos
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>> > With one drive, you have to continuously retype in
>> > the entire path for which directory you are going to.
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>> No one with any sense types stuff like that anymore.
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>you saying i have no sense?
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>> > I have had to do this, don't ask why, I don't remember specificly, but this
>> > was a great benefit.  Sure, limited use of it, but better than the alternative.
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>> Nope, not better than a single partition
>> with meaningful names and shortcuts etc.
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>shortcuts don't work out of pure dos i'm afraid
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>> >>> Two points, I have two hard drives, so there would be C: and D: anyway,
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>> >> Yes, but at least the letters the partitions on the boot drive
>> >> get dont change if you remove the second hard drive.
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>> > They don't anyway, there is no primary dos partition on my second hard disk.
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>> Not always possible, most obviously with that hard drive upgrade
>> situation. When most dont have full backups anymore, its by far
>> the safest way to upgrade the boot drive to a bigger one.
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>easily possible.  i get second hard drive with pri dos partition on it, i copy
>all of the stuff to my original hard drive, fdisk it, make an extended partition
>and logical drives, copy it back and presto, drive letters back to normal
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>> Your opinion is your problem.
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>your telling him what he thinks is wrong?  it's his opinion, if you want to
>argue his facts go ahead, but his opinion is his, it can't be wrong
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>> >>> And this did help me diagnose a bad drive earlier, when
>> >>> my original drive developed a bad sector in the D: drive area.
>> >>> Scandisk kept locking up at the same area, so maybe bad sector.
>> >>> I copied the data files from it to E:, and formatted the drive, to
>> >>> see if it was a physical defect.  Format locked up half way thru.
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>> >> That aint the only way to decide if the hard drive has a problem.
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>> > Yes, i could have used some other programs, which I did.
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>> So it aint good reason for always having multiple partitons on the boot
>> drive, particularly when that approach has other undesirable side effects.
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>> > I imagine I could have brought it to a
>> > wizard and have him cast a spell on it too.
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>> Careful you dont go blind now.
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>> > My point was formatting is the fastest and most
>> > sure way to see if the drive has a bad sector.
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>> Wrong.
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>i agree here, formatting isn't the best way to detect bad sectors, scandisk out
>of dos is much better
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Of course Scandisk is better, but I tried it, under Windows and Dos, and all
it did was lock up at a certain cluster.  However the cluster it locked up at
in Windows was not the same cluster is locked up at in Dos.  Windows
locked up at around cluster 23,400, and Dos did at Cluster 23,700.  It
also never marked the clusters as bad, then finished checking the disk.
And I waited for several hours a couple times for each, it just sat there
looking like it was scanning, but the cluster numbers never advanced
past the particular point.  Which again was a different point under
Windows Scandisk and DOS Scandisk.

I also tried Norton Utilities, which didn't even find a problem because it
doesn't do a write test anymore to verify the surface, just reads it.
And another diagnostic test for the hard drive, which also locked up.
So my point was not that Format was the best way to test the drive.
Instead I meant, as I pointed out earlier also, if I can't successfully Format
a drive, I don't care if a diagnostic test says it is OK or not.  That is why
I took the drastic step of Formatting that drive, which failed to finish.
Locked up at roughly the same place of the drive as Scandisk did.
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