🚀 go-pugleaf

Wait, we are making a break-thru.  Rod Speed is agreeing with us.
Keep the fire hose on him, while I poke his feet with this spear.
I have collected some of his most memorable quotes here,
which I am sure we will remember seeing, but he will claim
are not what he said/meant.  -Aaron

Todd wrote in message ...
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>Rod Speed wrote in message ...
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>>Tom MacIntyre <tmacinty@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:37be8bd1.41615386@news1.ns.sympatico.ca...
>>> Rod Speed <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au> wrote
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>>>>> I recently had to look at a laptop computer which had a defective
>>>>> video circuit, and was a write-off (no display on its own or external
>>>>> VGA port). I was able to get a directory printout and back up some
>>>>> files to floppy using DOS... with Windows 3 or 95/98 it would have
>>>>> been just about impossible, but with DOS it was easy.
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>>>> Got SFA to do with what was being discussed, the
>>>> partitioning of the boot drive and how that suits dos
>>>> prompt ops. It would be completely mad to be partitioning
>>>> the hard drive so that sort of rare stuff is more convenient.
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>>>>> It's starting to look like you're so blinded by the opposition
>>>>> you've gotten to some of your ideas that you're lashing out
>>>>> without even considering what you're lashing out at.
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>>>> Its been obvious all along that you cant manage to grasp what was
>>>> being discussed, how to partition the boot drive for FAT32 Win9x.
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>>> Hmmm...this thread has moved on,
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>>Nope. No one ever said that DOS ops arent useful
>>for techs that are dealing with recalcitrant systems.

See, here he agrees that knowing DOS is not irrelevant, as he tried
to make us believe earlier.
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>As usual you change the subject.
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>>ALL I said was that only dinosaurs do much at the DOS prompt in a
>>working FAT32 Win9x system so it is completely pointless partitioning
>>the boot drive in a way that makes that particular use more convenient.

Oh, here he is hedging the truth some. He specifically said:
"Hardly anyone uses the DOS prompt anymore. Dinosaur stuff."
"Or toss the entire dos command line in the bin for that sort of thing."
And notice his response to someone:
"> Not to mention the fact that if you can't get into Windows,
> you need to know DOS to get Windows working again.

 Complete crap.snip..  Your claim that you need to know DOS is complete crap."
And again:
"> DOS maybe old, but it's still an extremely important thing to know.

 Wrong, because that hardly ever happens, that you 'cant get into Windows'."





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>FAT32 has nothing to do with using DOS!!!
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>>> and yet you don't want to,
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>>I'm quite happy to discuss whether DOS is any use when dealing
>>with a system that cant boot etc. I have never ever said that doing
>>that is a dinosaur approach. Even if you cant manage to grasp that.

See his quote above, and decide for yourself.
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>The only one who can't grasp is you.
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>>> but still criticise others for not "moving on" from DOS...
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>>When using a FAT32 Win9x system thats working fine. At least TRY to keep
>up.

Well, you keep weeving in and out of about four threads.
" What was being discussed was what to do when using
 FAT32, not FAT16. Thats got lost in the quote snipping."

"What was being discussed was how to organise the boot drive when
running Win98 with FAT32. "

"And what was being discussed originally was 2-3
partitions, where there aint gunna be no G drive."

"We werent discussing how to do the boot drive when running NT."

" You dont have to fart around recompiling the kernal,
unlike unix quite a bit of the time."
This in response to my mention of volume labels.  I don't see the connection.

"Having to recompile the kernal is a joke."
In response to my mention of Active Directory, URLs, and  UNCs.  Connection???

"Completely and utterly irrelevant when what was being discussed
was the use of a FAT32 Win9x system thats working fine and how
much sense it makes to be furiously pounding away on the keyboard
at the DOS prompt in that sort of system today."
When he finally realized his tirade against knowing how to use the
DOS prompt was idiotic, he tries to hide behind the original topic.
Unfortunately, he is too stupid to realize that this WAS NOT the
original topic.  It was about installing WinNT to dual boot with Win98.


And finally, when asked to stick to a topic:
"> Granted we are argueing here, but can't you please stick to the topic at hand?

Request denied."
He admits that he can't stick to a single topic at a time, in one place in the thread,
and make valid arguments to support his claim.  He has to throw in quite irrelevant
nonsense to try to cover his inability to make any valid statements.
And besides, I never had to re-compile a kernal in Linux, but I have had to
reinstall windows dozens of times.  So which is the most likely problem to face.

And Rod Speed loves these very technical responses to things he
can't understand:
"Achieves SFA."
"Your problem."
"Careful you dont go blind now."
"You really should be using punched cards."
"Got SFA to do with how to train Win users"


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>I got lost, where were we?
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>>> you're content to discuss DOS until you have no reply,
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>>You dont know that either.
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>He's absolutely correct.
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>>> whereupon you hide behind the original discussion.
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>>I rub your nose in the fact that you are raving on about what wasnt being
>discussed.
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>Thus proving what he said is true.

As I said, he weeves from one topic to another, just so he won't have to
admit that he doesn't have  a leg to stand on.
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>>> I think you argue in absolutes a bit too much...
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>>You already know what I think of what you 'think'.
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>We all wish you would get a clue.
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>>> ok, here...if I was putting together a new system, AND didn't
>>> have some of the constraints/circumstances that I currently
>>> have, I probably would go with a single FAT32 partition myself.
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>>And thats all I ever said in this pathetic excuse for a thread.

Excuse me?  All you ever said?  Hardly.
And it's pathetic that we have to spend so much time trying to
explain things to you, only to have you close your eyes, cover
your ears, and run around the room, humming to yourself.

>>I never even said that anyone else should do that, just said
>>that thats what *I* would do in a specific situation.

Again, I go to what he has previously posted, which is not what
he is trying to claim here:
"The world's move on an it makes absolutely no sense to be
 using FAT16 on a 12GB drive today."
"Your opinion is your problem."
"You get no say what so ever on anything at all. "

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>Fine, then shut up already.
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>>> The problem is, my computer is the result of a process of evolution, and
>>> is also a family computer, and so I have partitions, to accomodate
>reality.
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>>You dont need partitions to accomodate reality. Its just one way to do
>that.

Hey, he is agreeing that there is more than one way to do something.
Sounds like he is about to accept an opinion from someone.
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>You don't need a newsgroup to replace reality.
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>>> The rest of the family is free to simply learn what they can/will
>>> while using the PC, because Dad's here to wrestle with any serious
>>> problems...and I usually can, despite the fact that I can't convince
>>> you that I'm capable of grasping the notion of partitions and FAT32.
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>>I've never ever said anything remotely resembling that either.
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>Nor should you.
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