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Article #164Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:00
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Ken, Allison & Baby Andrew Williams <kbs@xmission.com> wrote in message news:37BE2F20.3C5EE09B@xmission.com... > Rod Speed wrote >>>> Todd <Post_to_group_only@nospam.com> wrote >>>>>> Hardly anyone uses the DOS prompt anymore. Dinosaur stuff. >>>>> That's the only place your arguments had >>>>> any meaning! Geez, get with the program. >>>> Here's where I disagree with both of you... >>>> DOS is still relevant for me... >>> I agree completely. I can do just about anything >>> in DOS 20 times faster than I can do it in Windows. >> Thats only because you havent setup the Win properly. > Okay, I'm up for suggestions. Tell me how can I in > one step do the following command through Windows. Completely bogus requests. What matters is whether it makes any sense to be doing this sort of stuff at all, not whether it can be done in 'one step' > COPY *A*.* C:\TEMP > That is, copy all files with the letter A anywhere in the file > name from the current directory to the temp directory? What's the point in doing that at all ? What you might well want to do in some situations is copy a few of the files off a floppy to somewhere on the hard drive. You certainly cant do that in a single step at the DOS prompt if you cant remember exactly what the files are called or they dont have a convenient wildcard. >>> Not to mention the fact that if you can't get into Windows, >>> you need to know DOS to get Windows working again. >> Complete crap. > Bullshit! Nope. > If Windows will not start, how do you get Windows running again? Oh, just a few options like safe mode or step by step. Your claim that you need to know DOS is complete crap. > Perhaps a reinstall from the boot disk, and if that fails also? You dont 'need to know DOS' to follow simple description of how to format the drive you will then install Win9x onto. > If Windows is really screwed up, you're going to > have to use DOS to either FDISK &/or FORMAT, And you dont 'need to know DOS' to do that, you can just follow a simple description of how to install Win9x in that particular situation which includes that format. > or you're going to have to use DELTREE to delete > the Windows directory, or some other *DOS* option. Got SFA to do with 'need to know DOS', all you need to be able to do is read a simple description of what to do in that particular situation. > These are *ALL* DOS commands and there is > no fucking way of doing them through Windows. And a microscopic percentage of the time that is the situation. Makes a hell of a lot more sense to have a simple description of what to do in that particular situation than to teach everyone all about DOS prompt ops. And what was being discussed was how to partition a FAT32 Win9x system, not whether DOS commands are ever used. > When you buy a new hard drive, how do you > partition, through the fucking DOS prompt. Taint the only way. And there is no 'need to know DOS', all thats needed is a simple description of what to do in that particular situation. > You must know DOS in order to truly be able to fix all Windows problems! Crap. And that has SFA to do with whether it makes the slightest sense to be furiously doing things at a DOS prompt with a normal system anyway. >>> DOS maybe old, but it's still an extremely important thing to know. >> Wrong, because that hardly ever happens, that you 'cant get into Windows' > It may hardly ever happen on a personal basis, > but it happens all of the time in the real world. Its the personal basis that matters when proclaiming that everyone has a 'need to know DOS' so they know what to do in that particular situation. Of course they dont, the other obvious alternative is to have a simple description of what to do DOS command wise if safe mode and a reinstall etc wont work. > This is part of the reason that Windows is such a large piece of shit. Nope. > Also, you still need to know DOS to partition a drive, correct. Wrong. >>> I had someone that wanted to come work for me, >>> the first thing I did was give him a book on DOS. >> Your problem. > No, it's not a problem at all, it's an extremely good way to go. Nope, complete waste of time. Your pathetic attempt at oneupmanship flushed where it belongs.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f42b5,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf42b5,public X-Google-Thread: fde9e,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfde9e,public X-Google-Thread: 1070cf,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1070cf,public X-Google-Thread: 100597,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid100597,public X-Google-Thread: 1020d9,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1020d9,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public From: "Rod Speed" <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au> Subject: Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode Date: 1999/08/21 Message-ID: <QSuv3.6031$O_1.43427@ozemail.com.au> X-Deja-AN: 515441885 Distribution: world References: <7pa1p4$32i$1@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net> <ET5u3.3532$O_1.20832@ozemail.com.au> <37B8FA7A.63CBEE72@snip.net> <7pbg26$1p8$1@mochi.lava.net> <LZku3.3975$O_1.24517@ozemail.com.au> <7pdocr$esi$1@mochi.lava.net> <Btwu3.4380$O_1.26614@ozemail.com.au> <7pgmkb$d2s$1@mochi.lava.net> <zU_u3.5121$O_1.34745@ozemail.com.au> <rrqc9e4iboh33@corp.supernews.com> <37bd4581.42413857@news1.ns.sympatico.ca> <37BD677C.99D1EE51@xmission.com.zz> <6Nmv3.5782$O_1.42099@ozemail.com.au> <37BE2F20.3C5EE09B@xmission.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Trace: ozemail.com.au 935230000 203.108.163.74 (Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:06:40 EST) Organization: OzEmail Ltd, Australia X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:06:40 EST Newsgroups: alt.certification.mcse,alt.computer,alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,alt.windows98,aus.computers