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> > They only see, and understand what the native
> > application's file/open window shows them.
>
> And thats all they need.

Oh really?

You are a fine example of "the dumbing down" of computer users. You really
should be using a Mac.
And I never said that general users should utilize DOS, or DOS windows
instead of using windows itself, only that if a prior knowledge of DOS
exists, it helps new windows users understand things much better, and grasp
concepts of the file system much more clearly. And if you think it is so
rare for windows to be broken to the point of not even operating in safe
mode, than you clearly don't have much experience in repairing modern PC's.
In my business, I get one in the shop in that state probably twice a week.
And, I wouldn't even consider hiring anyone who calls him/herself a
"technician" if they didn't have a good understanding of DOS. It is
critical, crucial, and it is the foundation that windows is built upon.




Rod Speed <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Thor <man@arms.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Absolutely correct.
>
> Completely wrong when what is being discussed is how
> to partition the boot drive with a FAT32 Win9x system.
>
> > The wonderful thing about having someone
> > learn DOS before getting into Windows,
>
> Completely mad, the world's moved on.
>
> > is because DOS forces you to visualize the
> > file system through the command line interface.
>
> Completely useless for Win9x ops.
>
> > After they grasp that concept, windows is
> > much easier to digest for the novice user.
>
> On crap. Novice users just save files where the app points and they
> can handle that fine without wasting lots of time with DOS prompt stuff.
>
> > I can't tell you how many people I deal with that use computers
> > (windows) on a daily basis, and still have absolutely no grasp
> > of how files are stored, and where to retrieve them later.
>
> They dont need that. They also cant rebuild a system at
> the hardware level either and they dont need that either.
>
> > They only see, and understand what the native
> > application's file/open window shows them.
>
> And thats all they need.
>
> > Put that file in another folder, and they are completely lost.
>
> Not if they are shown what that stuff is about, using the app etc, or
using explorer.
>
> Complete waste of time farting around at
> the DOS prompt with that class of user.
>
> Thats why Win has taken off so spectacularly and DOS died.
>
> > For the technician side of things, there are often situations when
> > Windows is hosed to the point of not even running in safe mode.
>
> Thats quite uncommon and says SFA about how the boot
> drive should be partitioned. Makes absolutely no sense at
> all doing the partitioning for that very rare situation.
>
> > It's in these cases that a working knowledge of DOS is an invaluable
tool.
>
> It aint even necessary for that situation and you need
> to know a lot more than just DOS prompt ops to be able
> to do anything useful with a system in that state anyway.
>
> > I don't think ANY PC technician should be without those basic skills.
>
> Got SFA to do with how a boot drive of a FAT32 Win9x system should be
partitioned.
> >> Well, they still teach DOS in most/many computer certification
programs,
> >> and there are times when a knowledge of DOS will help in the event of
a
> >> crash. It is also a basic knowledge of "DOS" that allows setting up of
> >> folders, correctly unzipping files into temporary folders, and using
the
> >> Start-Run. I recently had to look at a laptop computer which had a
> >> defective video circuit, and was a write-off (no display on its own or
> >> external VGA port). I was able to get a directory printout and back up
> >> some files to floppy using DOS...with Windows 3 or 95/98 it would
> >> have been just about impossible, but with DOS it was easy.
>
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