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Article #62Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode
From: Todd
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:00
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You had your chance to be intelligent!!! Now shut up, because I'm not interested in what you have to say, which as I look below is just more of that bullshitese you speak. Rod Speed wrote in message ... > >Todd <Post_to_group_only@nospam.com> wrote in >message news:rs87nflmh9757@corp.supernews.com... > >> (A quick recap) What the people using multiple partitions are doing >> is *simulating* multiple single partitioned drives just like your setup. > >Not simulating so much, just a different way >to get 3 partitions with a single hard drive. > >> The fact that you normally don't delete from drives >> D and E is the reason only drive C is fragmented. > >He said quite clearly that the C drive ISNT fragmented. So the >claim is a complete dud on fragmentation that requires defragging. > >> Also when you move the stuff from C to D as keepers, >> you normally do that soon after you download the stuff >> so, your pulling it off the top of the drive (FAT), thus >> reducing the amount of fragmentation to C. > >Thats a gross over simplification too when you normally only save >a small subset of what ends up on the C drive when browsing etc. > >> This is exactly why some people *are* using >> partitions besides the use of multiple OS's. > >Wota pity they were claiming that they do it to ensure >that the fragmentation is restricted to a single partition >and clearly with his system not one of the partitions >is fragmented enough to warrant defragging. > >> In addition to partitions, I myself use DoubleSpace to simulate >> partitions and use it solely for the purpose of temporary files >> (temp folder, temporary internet files, CDRW cache, etc.). > >And most just get more hard drive now hard drive space >is so cheap. And thats precisely what the original poster >had done, so this other stuff about how to operate when >strapped for hard drive space is a completely separate issue. > >What was being discussed was how to partition a 12GB hard drive, >with FAT32 Win9x being used, and whether there is anything to be >gained by having multiple partitions on that drive or just one. > >> I also benefit from compression of all the html files that >> gets placed there automatically by IE. Since the DS drives >> get purged occasionally, I never need to defrag them. I put >> the DoubleSpace drives on before I installed anything else so >> their already at the front of the drive for fastest access, another >> simple fact some would dispute besides using DoubleSpace at all. > >See above. > >> Actually with my setup when I run defrag even now after 3 years >> (1154 days ago) I still only have 1% fragmentation, so I always press >> cancel. I might get concerned about it when it reaches 2% though. :) > >Got absolutely nothing to do with what was being >discussed, the advantages and disadvantages of one or >multiple partitions on a 12GB FAT32 boot drive with Win9x. > >> Since I do the housekeeping on the machine I use at work (single >> drive with single partition) I know for a fact, nothing gets deleted >> ever. By adding data to multiple databases and new file creation >> only, I can tell you 7% fragmentation over 30 days is quite common. > >Clearly a quite specialised situation. Nothing >like what was being discussed either. > >> I would hate it see what any of the unmaintenanced machines look >> like. Too bad I'm not the comptroller, I'd change that real quick. > >Just another kid who thinks he knows it all. An absolutely classic >example of the old saying 'employ them while they are young, while >they know everything' You might grow up a bit one day and find you dont. > > >> EmJay.. wrote in message <37C3C594.3007A932@ar.com.au>... > >>> I would like to add my personal observations on fragmentation to >>> this thread:- I have 3 hd's, all of which are using FAT32. C:=2.6Gb; >>> D:=1.2Gb; E:=4.3Gb, all are single drives(no partitions). > >>> C: drive is my main drive, o/s, prog files, temp storage of d/loaded files >>> etc. D: is my "keep stuff from internet" drive, and E: is my games drive! >>> Just did a quick Defrag check on each drive, and after 6mths+, >>> C: is 1% fragmented, >>> D: is 0% fragmented, >>> E: is 0% fragmented, > >>> Now as I am d/loading and moving between drives anything from >>> 5-20mb a day, as well as deleting a fair bit of unwanted stuff, I must >>> say that fragmentation on a single drive with no extra partitions on it >>> will take some time to affect the performance of the system,yes? > >Yes. > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f42b5,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf42b5,public X-Google-Thread: 100597,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid100597,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public X-Google-Thread: fde9e,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfde9e,public X-Google-Thread: 1070cf,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1070cf,public X-Google-Thread: 1020d9,5f6974e49456f2b4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1020d9,public From: "Todd" <Post_to_group_only@nospam.com> Subject: Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode Date: 1999/08/26 Message-ID: <rs9sr522j7191@corp.supernews.com> X-Deja-AN: 517354368 References: <7pa1p4$32i$1@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net> <ET5u3.3532$O_1.20832@ozemail.com.au> <37B8FA7A.63CBEE72@snip.net> <7pbg26$1p8$1@mochi.lava.net> <LZku3.3975$O_1.24517@ozemail.com.au> <7pdocr$esi$1@mochi.lava.net> <Btwu3.4380$O_1.26614@ozemail.com.au> <7pgmkb$d2s$1@mochi.lava.net> <zU_u3.5121$O_1.34745@ozemail.com.au> <37C07159.BF9F18F1@snip.net> <FQ3w3.7028$O_1.48383@ozemail.com.au> <37c12e02.214234310@news1.ns.sympatico.ca> <cTkw3.7497$O_1.52907@ozemail.com.au> <37c1f8e3.266179284@news1.ns.sympatico.ca> <SFtw3.7928$O_1.54751@ozemail.com.au> <37c2b2b0.12942465@news1.ns.sympatico.ca> <RpEw3.8165$O_1.58699@ozemail.com.au> <7dJw3.25$34.6973@news.oh.voyager.net> <J5Pw3.8548$O_1.60163@ozemail.com.au> <37C3C594.3007A932@ar.com.au> <rs87nflmh9757@corp.supernews.com> <TxZw3.8844$O_1.63883@ozemail.com.au> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Newsgroups: alt.certification.mcse,alt.computer,alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,alt.windows98,aus.computers X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com