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Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:00
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Todd <Post_to_group_only@nospam.com> wrote in
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> (A quick recap) What the people using multiple partitions are doing
> is *simulating* multiple single partitioned drives just like your setup.

Not simulating so much, just a different way
to get 3 partitions with a single hard drive.

> The fact that you normally don't delete from drives
> D and E is the reason only drive C is fragmented.

He said quite clearly that the C drive ISNT fragmented. So the
claim is a complete dud on fragmentation that requires defragging.

> Also when you move the stuff from C to D as keepers,
> you normally do that soon after you download the stuff
> so, your pulling it off the top of the drive (FAT), thus
> reducing the amount of fragmentation to C.

Thats a gross over simplification too when you normally only save
a small subset of what ends up on the C drive when browsing etc.

> This is exactly why some people *are* using
> partitions besides the use of multiple OS's.

Wota pity they were claiming that they do it to ensure
that the fragmentation is restricted to a single partition
and clearly with his system not one of the partitions
is fragmented enough to warrant defragging.

> In addition to partitions, I myself use DoubleSpace to simulate
> partitions and use it solely for the purpose of temporary files
> (temp folder, temporary internet files, CDRW cache, etc.).

And most just get more hard drive now hard drive space
is so cheap. And thats precisely what the original poster
had done, so this other stuff about how to operate when
strapped for hard drive space is a completely separate issue.

What was being discussed was how to partition a 12GB hard drive,
with FAT32 Win9x being used, and whether there is anything to be
gained by having multiple partitions on that drive or just one.

> I also benefit from compression of all the html files that
> gets placed there automatically by IE. Since the DS drives
> get purged occasionally, I never need to defrag them. I put
> the DoubleSpace drives on before I installed anything else so
> their already at the front of the drive for fastest access, another
> simple fact some would dispute besides using DoubleSpace at all.

See above.

> Actually with my setup when I run defrag even now after 3 years
> (1154 days ago) I still only have 1% fragmentation, so I always press
> cancel. I might get concerned about it when it reaches 2% though. :)

Got absolutely nothing to do with what was being
discussed, the advantages and disadvantages of one or
multiple partitions on a 12GB FAT32 boot drive with Win9x.

> Since I do the housekeeping on the machine I use at work (single
> drive with single partition) I know for a fact, nothing gets deleted
> ever. By adding data to multiple databases and new file creation
> only, I can tell you 7% fragmentation over 30 days is quite common.

Clearly a quite specialised situation. Nothing
like what was being discussed either.

> I would hate it see what any of the unmaintenanced machines look
> like. Too bad I'm not the comptroller, I'd change that real quick.

Just another kid who thinks he knows it all. An absolutely classic
example of the old saying 'employ them while they are young, while
they know everything' You might grow up a bit one day and find you dont.


> EmJay.. wrote in message <37C3C594.3007A932@ar.com.au>...

>> I would like to add my personal observations on fragmentation to
>> this thread:- I have 3 hd's, all of which are using FAT32. C:=2.6Gb;
>> D:=1.2Gb; E:=4.3Gb, all are single drives(no partitions).

>> C: drive is my main drive, o/s, prog files, temp storage of d/loaded files
>> etc. D: is my "keep stuff from internet" drive, and E: is my games drive!
>> Just did a quick Defrag check on each drive, and after 6mths+,
>> C: is 1% fragmented,
>> D: is 0% fragmented,
>> E: is 0% fragmented,

>> Now as I am d/loading and moving between drives anything from
>> 5-20mb a day, as well as deleting a fair bit of unwanted stuff, I must
>> say that fragmentation on a single drive with no extra partitions on it
>> will take some time to affect the performance of the system,yes?

Yes.
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From: "Rod Speed" <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode
Date: 1999/08/26
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