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Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode

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From: Aaron
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:00
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Tom MacIntyre wrote in message <37c135ee.216262150@news1.ns.sympatico.ca>...
>"Rod Speed" <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hyper <jimb@snip.net> wrote in message news:37C0B916.67BA455@snip.net...
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Aaron <chaaron@lave.net> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote in message ...
>>>>>> Aaron <chaaron@lave.net> wrote
>>
>>>> I've flushed all your childish stuff. There isnt much left.
>>
>>> I've printed this message and flushed it down the toilet, how's that?
>>
>>Not good enough. If you cant manage any better than the
>>childish stuff you have below, I'll be doing that with your crap too.
>>
>>>>> If the large FAT32 20GB drive has all the files at the beginning of
>>>>> the drive, within the first 5GB, and doesn't use the rest of the drive,
>>
>>>> Doesnt happen.
>>
>>> yes it does
>>
>>Have fun explaining the drive I've currently booted. The figures
>>arent that far from those above, 12GB drive, 6.5GB free. The
>>files arent anything like all up the front of the drive, the space
>>between the first and last file is about 50% free space, with
>>huge holes, much bigger than the biggest files on the drive.
>>
>>It was obviously in his scenario after the clean install, and its nothing
>>like that now, so his claim is complete crap. Bugger all has been wiped
>>from the drive since the clean install too. Never been defraged.
>>
>
>I'll try to explain it...temporary file creation and deletion,
>naturally occurring...the growth of a swapfile beyond its set lower
>limit, naturally occurring. Also, and this may be wrong, or at least
>outdated...I THINK I recall that new file storage will possibly leave
>alone open clusters from recently deleted files, as long as other
>clusters are available...I may be off the mark on that. I'll admit to
>having never taken a course in this stuff, having only done a lot of
>reading and a bit of experimentation. I'm not at the moment a
>professional in this field, but I've worked on a lot of computers for
>friends and family, and also volunteered to help maintain the computer
>system at the school my kids attend, and I do have some on-the-job
>experience as well. It's entirely possible though, that I've picked up
>a myth/fallacy or two along the way...one of the reasons why I'm here.
>
>Tom

Well Tom, for an uneducated guy, you seem to know a lot.
And have a better grip on the situation that Rod Speed, who has
claimed to have been in this stuff for 3 decades.

He says he has a drive with a "clean install" that has files all over
the place.  He doesn't understand what a "clean install" leaves behind.
A lot of files are copied to the disk during installation of Win98,
and then deleted after install is finished.  Plus the swapfile could
have been set very large for the install, and is now at it's default size.
And YES files to tend to write to free areas of the disk that don't
have recently deleted files on them, just incase you want to undelete
the files.  Even though you have the Recycle Bin, which keeps files
from actually being deleted, if you empty it, the OS doesn't use
that space right away.  But it might the next day after turning the
system on.  Of course, it's hard to undelete files nowadays, since
MS removed the UNDELETE.COM command from Windows.
Stupid Recycle Bin.
--
Aaron Marks
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From: "Aaron" <chaaron@lave.net>
Subject: Re: help, windows will only start in safe mode
Date: 1999/08/24
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