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Susan Sharm <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote
> Ivan Tisljar wrote

>> Program Files are well organised
>> I don't see the difference with installing
>> into C:\Prografiles or C:\My programs

> I appreciate your perspective. I will courteously share mine
> (which differs slightly from yours). There's no difference
> between C:\Program Files & C:\My Programs IF we don't
> mind two major flaws of C:\Program Files
> - FLATNESS
> - ORGANIZATION

> FLATNESS: The C:\Program Files flatness is utterly ridiculous.

That is just plain wrong. It isnt a flat organisation,
they're organised by manufacturer and then application.

> The long-standing computer rule of thumb (from the UNIX world)

That doesnt make it a long-standing computer rule of thumb.

> is to plan on having, on average, roughly, about
> 10 directories at any one level of a hierarchy.

That is just plain wrong too.

> Anything much less is overkill; anything much
> more generally begs for another level of hierarchy.

Mindlessly superficial. What matters is how logical the hierarchy is.

> In my case, I have nothing in the top level of C:\My Programs other
> than ten tasks (my plan being to install grouped tasks together, e.g.,
> to group media editors under "My Editors", and to group finance programs
> under "My Money", and to group the kid's games under "Tims Games", etc.

No reason why it should be organised by function, its actually
better to organise it by manufacturer at the top level, because
its easier to work out what the manufacturer is than what
category is. In spades with the automated install, that can
never be done reliably by category, trivial by manufacturer.

> ORGANIZATION: Besides the untenable
> flatness of the C:\Program Files directory,

Just your pig ignorant fantasy.

> nobody in their right mind would willingly
> organize programs by their brand names.

Wrong again, most obviously because that is trivial to automate
and anything else requires manual intervention at install time.

> That mixes programs at any one level of hierarchy
> that have absolutely nothing to do with each other
> than they share a common letter in the alphabet.

Irrelevant. What matters is how easy the right one is to fine.

That will always be more reliable by manufacture than by category.

> Even then, some manufacturers respect at least a single hierarchy
> (e.g., C:\Program Files\Adobe), while others create additional flat
> hierarchies (e.g., C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office, C:\Program
> Files\Microsoft Games, C:\Program Files\Windows Update, etc.).
> You see, it's not even organized by brand name.

Yes, its organised by manufacturer and then brand name.

> Put it this way. Say the movers are unpacking your house. Instead
> of you telling them to put the garden supplies in the shed, the car in
> the garage, the dresses in the bedroom, the shoes in the closet, the
> linen in the linen closet, the toothbrush in the bathroom, the dishes
> in the kitchen, etc, you allow them to leave EVERYTHING in the
> living room, in a bijumbled mess, based loosly on the brand name.

Completely useless analogy.

> Anyone who says this makes sense is going to have to have a PhD in
> logic if they plan on convincing me of the logic in this plan of operation.

Likely you actually are that stupid.

The obvious reason for doing it by manufacturer is that that is always
going to work reliably without manual intervention at install time.

Even you should have noticed that the apps arent
manually executed from the Program Files tree on PCs.

> To those who would argue that we could organize C:\Program
> Files hierarchically, I state that I tried that for years. Basically
> Microsoft madness will defeat you. If you change your
> "programfilesdir" variable in the system registry you will, all of a
> sudden, get tons of total crap in your C:\My Programs directory.
> The minute you use any Microsoft Office tool, it does this (try it -
> you'll despair as I have already done). Worse yet, the PC comes
> to you already filled with unorganized crap in the C:\Program Files
> directory.

Your pathetic anal hangup are your problem.

> Just like the Start Menu is filled with items
> organized by a four-year old on LSD.

In spades. You're always welcome to reorganise that any way you like.

> Basically, anyone wishing to run an organized PC learns the
> hard way to leave the Start Menu and C:\Program Files mess
> as it was when you bought the machine, wholly unorganized.

You're pig ignorantly lying there. It isnt anything like wholly unorganised.

> They then create menus that ARE organized,
> and they create a C:\My Programs hierarchy
> that uses the SAME task-based organization.

> By the way, don't even get me started on the fact that
> Microsoft thinks it's perfectly sane to leave an insane
> set of FILES in the root level of the C drive! It's obvious
> they never even thought about where files belong.

More mindlessly silly pig ignorant ranting.

> But, just because they caved in to chaos

Lying, again.

> doesn't mean we have to succumb to the Microsoft Madness ourselves!

Doesnt mean we have to take any notice of pig ignorant fools like you either.