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In article <vub9n7qe37h2fa@corp.supernews.com>, John Corliss <jcorliss@secrewspam.to#> wrote:
>Phred wrote:
>> In article <3FE46E79.20B51517@teleport.com>, 
>> ms<msa@nospa.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>> 
>>>In the CDRW format, have you used Imation disks and results? I have had
>>>good results with Imation CDR disks, have but not tried yet same in
>>>rewritable format.
>> 
>> I've been using Imation CD_RW for routine daily backup for a couple of 
>> years without problems.  One disk lasts about 6 months to a year 
>> before it's full, so only gets written about 20 to 50 times before 
>> it's "retired" as I have one for each day of the week (and always copy 
>> "yesterday" and "today" [ using good old XCOPY /s/d  ;-) ] so I end up 
>> with two copies of everything).  Also been using those Imation CD_RWs 
>> for my "Monthly" backups.  So that's now another couple of dozen.
>> 
>> All that said, I've recently switched to Imation CDRs formatted for 
>> "drag and drop" etc. from Windows/DOS stuff as someone in one of the 
>> cdrom newsgroups must have convinced me that was a more reliable way 
>> to go.  8-)  The main problem with this is that these CDRs can't be 
>> read on other machines that don't have appropriate software installed 
>> whereas the CD_RWs can be.
>
>My error messages and failed formats were on a Plextor. The error 
>messages occured when I tried to erase the CDRW and then rewrite on 
>them more than two or three times. I contacted my computer vendor and 
>they sent me a newer model replacement Plextor. It failed miserably 
>also. Are you sure you're refering to using CDRWs with a UDF format? 

I have to admit I'm slightly confused by the terminology.

I started out using Imation CD_RWs formatted in the default fashion by 
Adaptec DirectCD 3.01d_D5 (i.e. a Dell-installed OEM version).  No 
problems with them that way.

Later, I listened to blokes in comp.publish.cdrom.hardware and I 
*thought* they were saying such CD_RWs are unreliable and normal CD_Rs 
formatted UDF were much better.  So I have switched over.  No problems 
there either.  [These are also a default DirectCD format -- just stick 
the blank CD_R into the drive and it pops up to ask what you want to 
do.  Tell it to format for drag and drop, and Bob's your uncle!  But 
you can't read these on another machine without a UDF reader installed 
whereas there's no such problem with the CD_RWs.]

Where I *do* have problems with my Sony CRX140E is writing 
"conventional" data CD_Rs -- i.e. using Adaptec ECDC 4.02d to back up 
stuff, or make back ups of other CDs using the "Copy" function.  [The 
latter tends to be more problematic.]

>At the best, I was never able to successfully UDF format more than 4 
>out of a five pack, and usually the number was less. Much less 
>actually copy something to them. Then, when I actually DO succeed in 
>copying something to them, when I later try to access the data, there 
>is often a "read failure".
>
>I stand by my assessement and recommendation to use only CDR and ISO, 
>but of course YMMV


Cheers, Phred.

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