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On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:46:18 GMT, zvnteq7 posted to alt.comp.freeware:

> Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks
> to add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW
> they got ie8 faster is a mystery.

Isn't it obvious: dotNET of course.

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Klaatu wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:46:18 GMT, zvnteq7 posted to alt.comp.freeware:
> 
>> Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks
>> to add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW
>> they got ie8 faster is a mystery.
> 
> Isn't it obvious: dotNET of course.
> 
I just downloaded, SLOW AS FUCKING MOLASSES! Back to Seamonkey & Chrome :)

[discussing browser speed]

I wouldn't be too worried about any speed tests from any source. The 
bottom line for me is that I try various browsers and stick with the 
one/s that seem faster [for me], are more configureable [for me], etc. A 
few milliseconds in some lab test does not guarantee anything with 
regards to my specific experience.

Also, I don't mind trading off a few hundred milliseconds for features 
such as Greasemonkey, extensions, etc. I'll stick with FF thanks.

Besides, IE8 is fugly. :-)


R.

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zvnteq7 wrote:
> http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/03/12/microsoft-ie-8-is-often-faster-than-firefox-chrome-or-safari.aspx 
> 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/b56wee
> 
> WTF?
> 
> Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks to 
> add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW they 
> got ie8 faster is a mystery.


I install IE8 on two of my XP machines and it works fine...
web pages load a little faster...
so not bad.

Of course now days I use Linux most of the time

I tried on my Acer Aspire, took a much longer time to load as compared to 
IE7, this pissed me off.



"zvnteq7" <none@invalid.null> wrote in message 
news:gq0vap$cqf$1@news.motzarella.org...
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/03/12/microsoft-ie-8-is-often-faster-than-firefox-chrome-or-safari.aspx

http://tinyurl.com/b56wee

WTF?

Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks to
add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW they
got ie8 faster is a mystery. 

snuhwolf wrote:
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:16:47 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:17:01 +0000 (UTC)

Voluntary clock police courtesy report.

At the time of that post, your clock sed about 4:16 pm localtime Pacific
daylight time which is 11:16 UTC;  but the newsserver's clock stamped your
message an hour earlier;  which newsserver's clock is most likely to be
correct.

Or, said a simpler way;  it appears that your clock is set an hour into
the future due to a wrong timezone offset -- perhaps due to something
misconfigured about the daylight time condition.



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zvnteq7 wrote:
> Klaatu wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:46:18 GMT, zvnteq7 posted to alt.comp.freeware:
>>
>>> Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks
>>> to add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW
>>> they got ie8 faster is a mystery.
>>
>> Isn't it obvious: dotNET of course.
>>
> I just downloaded, SLOW AS FUCKING MOLASSES! Back to Seamonkey & Chrome :)

Apparently its pretty safe too...pwn2own winner said its better than 
Safari on OSX...and FF on windoze beats Safari on OSX....so much for OSX 
being "safer".

I say we kick Woz in the jimmy junk for letting it get so pwny.
^_^


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"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message 
news:gq17p0$v54$1@news.motzarella.org...
> snuhwolf wrote:
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:16:47 -0700
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:17:01 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Voluntary clock police courtesy report.
>
> At the time of that post, your clock sed about 4:16 pm localtime Pacific
> daylight time which is 11:16 UTC;  but the newsserver's clock stamped your
> message an hour earlier;  which newsserver's clock is most likely to be
> correct.
>
> Or, said a simpler way;  it appears that your clock is set an hour into
> the future due to a wrong timezone offset -- perhaps due to something
> misconfigured about the daylight time condition.

Farkin idiot! Snuhwolf is posting from North America, so he's adjusted his 
clock for daylight savings time correctly. But based on the abuse address of 
"datemas.de", it's a safe assumption to say his newsserver is located in 
Germany. The thing you don't seem to grasp is that ONLY NORTH AMERICA HAS 
SET THEIR CLOCKS FORWARD FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, the entire rest of the 
world won't set their clocks ahead until next weekend .... so his 
newsservers time is ALSO correct.

Jim Bean wrote:
> "Mike Easter"
>> snuhwolf wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:16:47 -0700
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:17:01 +0000 (UTC)

>> Or, said a simpler way;  it appears that your clock is set an hour into
>> the future due to a wrong timezone offset -- perhaps due to something
>> misconfigured about the daylight time condition.

> Farkin idiot! Snuhwolf is posting from North America, so he's adjusted
> his clock for daylight savings time correctly. But based on the abuse
> address of "datemas.de", it's a safe assumption to say his newsserver
> is located in Germany. The thing you don't seem to grasp is that ONLY
> NORTH AMERICA HAS SET THEIR CLOCKS FORWARD FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME,
> the entire rest of the world won't set their clocks ahead until next
> weekend .... so his newsservers time is ALSO correct.

You don't get it.  It doesn't matter whether a particular place on earth
is or is not observing daylight time in their localtime.  The entire
southern hemisphere handles daylight time completely differently than the
northern hemisphere, but that doesn't put the southern hemisphere in a
'timewarp' which causes them to be in some other time/space than the rest
of the world.

The fact is that we are all experiencing the same time at the same time,
and we can express that same time in UTC to resolve the confusion of what
time it is localtime or daylight time or not daylight time.

There is no problem with snuhwolf being in a different timezone than his
newsprovider, and there is no problem with snuhwolf being someplace in
North America that doesn't observe daylight time while surrounded by
others who do, but then the timezone offset should be configured
accordingly.

Or, said another way, if your timezone offset is -0700, then your clock
should be set to the appropriate localtime for the -0700 offset.  If your
timezone offset is something else, like -0600, then your clock should be
set to the appropriate localtime for the -0600 offset



-- 
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
> Jim Bean wrote:
>> "Mike Easter"
>>> snuhwolf wrote:
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:16:47 -0700
>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:17:01 +0000 (UTC)
> 
>>> Or, said a simpler way;  it appears that your clock is set an hour into
>>> the future due to a wrong timezone offset -- perhaps due to something
>>> misconfigured about the daylight time condition.
> 
>> Farkin idiot! Snuhwolf is posting from North America, so he's adjusted
>> his clock for daylight savings time correctly. But based on the abuse
>> address of "datemas.de", it's a safe assumption to say his newsserver
>> is located in Germany. The thing you don't seem to grasp is that ONLY
>> NORTH AMERICA HAS SET THEIR CLOCKS FORWARD FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME,
>> the entire rest of the world won't set their clocks ahead until next
>> weekend .... so his newsservers time is ALSO correct.
> 
> You don't get it.  It doesn't matter whether a particular place on earth
> is or is not observing daylight time in their localtime.  The entire
> southern hemisphere handles daylight time completely differently than the
> northern hemisphere, but that doesn't put the southern hemisphere in a
> 'timewarp' which causes them to be in some other time/space than the rest
> of the world.
> 
> The fact is that we are all experiencing the same time at the same time,
> and we can express that same time in UTC to resolve the confusion of what
> time it is localtime or daylight time or not daylight time.
> 
> There is no problem with snuhwolf being in a different timezone than his
> newsprovider, and there is no problem with snuhwolf being someplace in
> North America that doesn't observe daylight time while surrounded by
> others who do, but then the timezone offset should be configured
> accordingly.
> 
> Or, said another way, if your timezone offset is -0700, then your clock
> should be set to the appropriate localtime for the -0700 offset.  If your
> timezone offset is something else, like -0600, then your clock should be
> set to the appropriate localtime for the -0600 offset
> 
> 
Feh...yer *both* wrong. My system uses a sundial.
So on cloudy days....yeah....obviously theres gonna be a problem.



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zvnteq7 wrote:

> http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/03/12
microsoft-ie-8-is-often-faster-than-firefox-chrome-or-safari.aspx
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/b56wee
> 
> WTF?
> 
> Hmmm... I've kept ie6 with stumbleupon and my yahoo toolbar/bookmarks to
> add new and kool sites, I thought ie6 was faster than ie7 so HOW they
> got ie8 faster is a mystery.


Linux and firefox a LOT more quicker.
Thats because Linux spends a lot less time doing avg and other
background stuff (necessary on a WINDUMMY PC) making the 
user experience a lot quicker.

On things like Asus EEE, you can run stuff off of SD Cards
withe 3D translucent desktops quicker than it takes to boot
or browse with WINDUMMY lappies. 


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Converting distros to boot from SD Cards and USB flash drives
-------------------------------------------------------------

Got me self an EEE but the EEE has no optical drives (no CDROMs).
So I'm having to convert every install CD or liveCD into a
bootable SD card or USB flash drive to boot on the EEE.

Without being able to convert a distro into a bootable USB flash /SD Card,
that distro can't be easily loaded into netbook like EEE
and stand to miss out on users installing it into netbooks.

So I would recommend all distro mainters look at their netbook
boot strategy and offer something to boot their distros
from USB flash and SD cards or miss out on users installing it into
netbooks.

Having done a few conversions, a pattern emerges that works well for 
most syslinux / isolinux based distros.

1. Put your SD card or USB flash drive into your desktop Linux PC and
���then�open�a�console�and�type�dmesg
���You�should�see�some�line�indicating�your�flash�drive�as
���being�picked�up�and�allocated�with�a�comment�like�sdc�/�sdc1�etc..
���Remember�both�names�-�the�first�is�/dev/sdc�which�is�your
���device�name,�and�the�second�is�/dev/sdc1�which�is�your�partition�name.
���(Don't�get�confused�between�drive�/dev/sdc�and�partition�/dev/sdc1
���or�your�drive�could�become�scrambled�eggs�later�on.�Also�remember
���it�may�be�called�sdg�or�sdh�etc�depending�what�you�see�when�you
���plug�in�device�and�type�dmesg)

2. Install gparted on your machine using synaptic.
���To�run�it�you�can�type
�����sudo�gparted
���in�a�console�window�and�select�on�the�right�side�the�drive�name�allocated
���in�step�1.�Right�click�on�the�bar�that�represents�the�partition
���and�click�on�manage�flags.
���Enable�the�boot�flag�and�click�OK.�This�makes�the�SD�Card�/�USB
���stick�bootable.

3. Identify that you have syslinux or isolinux in your liveCD by
���opening�the�.ISO�file�in�archive�manager�and�checking�that�it�has
���isolinux�or�syslinux�directory�somewhere�in�the�liveCD.

4. Extract all the files in the .ISO file to the
���root�directory�of�the�SD�card�or�USB�flash�stick.

5. Go to the flash drive and locate the syslinux (or isolinux) directory.
���Copy�its�entire�content�to�the�root�directory�of�the�flash�drive.
���
6. If you have a syslinux.cfg file in the root directory of the
���flash�drive,�then�you�are�OK�for�step�6.
���Otherwise�if�you�have�a�isolinux.cfg�file,�then�rename�it�to�syslinux.cfg

7. Get syslinux - this is a boot loader and menu system for FAT based
���file�systems.�Download�the�latest�version�from�here...
���http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/
���Unzip�it�and�go�to�the�linux�directory.
���Run�the�program�there�by�typing�this�-�(note�this�command�is�updating
���the�partition�/dev/sdc1)

���./syslinux�-s�/dev/sdc1�

���This�puts�a�new�file�into�your�SD�card�/�USB�flash�disk

8. from the linux directory change to the mbr directory
���cd�../mbr
���and�then�run�this�-�again�note�this�time�its�updating�the�device�by
���writing�data�to�the�first�sector�as�opposed�to�the�first�partition.

���sudo�cat�mbr.bin�>�/dev/sdc

���This�makes�the�card�bootable�and�useable�in�an�Asus�EEE�and�many�other
���PCs�with�SD�card�or�USB�flash�disk�boot�facility.

Notes
-----
A. You can skip steps 2 and 8 if you don't format your card again
���when�you�want�to�try�out�another�distro.
B. Step 5 is messy but quick. You can figure out and copy just
���the�files�needed.
C. In step 6, editing the syslinux.cfg files can allow you to put
���more�than�1�distro�on�the�flash�drive.�But�beware,�many�distros
���use�default�paths�and�names�that�can�conflict.

This method tested and works for

1. Ubuntu
2. Slax
3. Knoppix
4. Puppy
5. DSL
6. GParted
7. gOS
8. Dynabolic
9. MoonOS

Does not work for DVD distros with files greater than 2Gb size inside
the .ISO file -��-�need�a�different�install�method�using�grub�bootloader
instead of syslinux (not covered here)

Does not work for .ISO files built with grub bootloader - need a different
install method with grub boot loader instead of syslinux.


The latest EEE1000 has fast enough graphics for translucent
3D desktops.

An easy way to do all this:

Install Ubuntu on EEE (compiz itself
appears to be installed by default in the default install),
then install compiz settings manager using Synaptic
which allows compiz to be fully 'exercised'.
And then do the following to get the 3D cube desktop
working...

�Go�to�General�>�Display�Settings�>�Lighting�and�turned�it�off
�Enable�Desktop�Cube�and�then�Desktop�Cube�>�Transparent�Cube�and�set�the
�two�opacity��settings�to�30%
�then�Desktop�Cube�>�Skydome�and�check�the�skydome�check�mark
�Enable�Rotate�Cube
�Enable�Enhanced�Zoom�Desktop
�Right�click�the�virtual�workspaces�panel�and�increase�the�number
�of�colums�to�8.

And hey presto - 100% 3D translucent desktop with 8 screens!!!!!!!!!!

�[Some�shortcuts�for�the�3D screen
��ctrl�+�alt�+�left�or�right�arrow�to�spin�cube
��ctrl�+�alt�+�down�arrow�and�then�left�or�right�arrow�for�a�ring�switcher
��super�+�E�for�yet�another�switcher
��super�+�mouse�wheel�scroll�to�zoom�in�and�out�of�the�3D�desktop.
�]

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