🚀 go-pugleaf

Here are my system specs, sorry I forgot them as my system rebooted for the
nth time.
Next time remind me to go with Intel.

Asus A7V333-Raid
512mb PC2700 RAM
Athlon XP 2000+ OEM
CoolJag JAC152A Fan (6000rpm)
Onboard Sound along with a Soundblaster Live! Value
Hercules Prophet II MX PCI 32mb
SOHOWare NIC
Plextor 121032a
Maxtor 30 gig 7200rpm ATA-100
Maxtor 13 gig 7200rpm ATA-66
nVidia Drivers v29.42
VIA 4in1 v4.43
Windows 2000 Professional

If you haven't tried yet, take out the SB live AND disable the onboard
sound.  Reboot, and let windows clean out all its unused drivers, and
manually remove any you find.  Also take out your modem, etc, anything other
than your video card which might cause any conflict  (any cards or
peripherals not necessary to boot windows).  Put the soundblaster back in
and re-boot.  Reinstall the drivers for it and go with it.  If the problem
persists, then at least you know it's specifically the soundblaster, and not
conflicts with any other cards or the onboard sound.

Al wrote:

> Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.  However,
> when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many problems
> started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system hangs,
> and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> 
> A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to use
> the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem is
> mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
> time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing the
> web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I saved
> this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
> function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a BSOD.
> The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
> actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of my
> CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> 
> This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only like
> once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
> pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
> SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected sometimes,
> even though it is not.
> 
> These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> Different slots for SB live
> Different drivers
> Disabling onboard sound
> Change PC from APIC to Standard
> Different Operating Systems
> and a few more
> 
> If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be delighted
> to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind of
> soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.  I
> would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> somehow fix it.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Have you tried a different power supply?  This sounds like maybe the 
computer is not getting enough power and is rebooting like a power 
failure.  The power supply may be providing just enough to power 
everything but the sound card and that puts it over the edge.

People always talk about the PSU being a problem... In some cases it is, but
realistically speaking, I think people blame too much on the PSU.  I don't
have a geforce 4 installed, only a g2 mx that needs a quarter of the
power... doesn't even have a fan.  I got no case fans or anything, jst two
hard drives and a cd burner and floppy... and my nic is the only thing other
thing connected to the pci bus... i doubt it's the power supply... 300W for
this setup should more than sufficient.


"Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3D87B616.5040509@earthlink.net...
> Al wrote:
>
> > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
However,
> > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
problems
> > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
hangs,
> > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> >
> > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to
use
> > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem
is
> > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
> > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing
the
> > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
saved
> > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
> > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
BSOD.
> > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
> > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of
my
> > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> >
> > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only
like
> > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
> > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
> > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
sometimes,
> > even though it is not.
> >
> > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > Different slots for SB live
> > Different drivers
> > Disabling onboard sound
> > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > Different Operating Systems
> > and a few more
> >
> > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
delighted
> > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
of
> > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
I
> > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> > somehow fix it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Have you tried a different power supply?  This sounds like maybe the
> computer is not getting enough power and is rebooting like a power
> failure.  The power supply may be providing just enough to power
> everything but the sound card and that puts it over the edge.
>

Al wrote:

> People always talk about the PSU being a problem... In some cases it is, but
> realistically speaking, I think people blame too much on the PSU.  I don't
> have a geforce 4 installed, only a g2 mx that needs a quarter of the
> power... doesn't even have a fan.  I got no case fans or anything, jst two
> hard drives and a cd burner and floppy... and my nic is the only thing other
> thing connected to the pci bus... i doubt it's the power supply... 300W for
> this setup should more than sufficient.
> 
> 

I thought the same thing with my previous computer.  Had about the same 
equipment load and only a Pentium III 850 cpu but was getting a lot of 
the same crashes.  I could not even patch Windows 2000 to SP2 without it 
crashing.  I also had only a GeForce2 MX video card.  Changing that to 
an ATI Radeon 7500 eliminated some of the crashes to desktop, but did 
not eliminate all of the problems.
I am not saying that your power supply size is the problem, but if it is 
"flaking" out (or getting too hot) it could cause some of the problems 
you are seeing.


> "Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3D87B616.5040509@earthlink.net...
> 
>>Al wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
>>>
> However,
> 
>>>when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
>>>
> problems
> 
>>>started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
>>>
> hangs,
> 
>>>and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
>>>started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
>>>
>>>A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to
>>>
> use
> 
>>>the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem
>>>
> is
> 
>>>mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
>>>time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing
>>>
> the
> 
>>>web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
>>>
> saved
> 
>>>this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
>>>function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
>>>
> BSOD.
> 
>>>The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
>>>actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
>>>proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of
>>>
> my
> 
>>>CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
>>>
>>>This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only
>>>
> like
> 
>>>once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
>>>pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
>>>SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
>>>controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
>>>
> sometimes,
> 
>>>even though it is not.
>>>
>>>These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
>>>Different slots for SB live
>>>Different drivers
>>>Disabling onboard sound
>>>Change PC from APIC to Standard
>>>Different Operating Systems
>>>and a few more
>>>
>>>If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
>>>
> delighted
> 
>>>to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
>>>
> of
> 
>>>soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
>>>
> I
> 
>>>would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
>>>somehow fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Have you tried a different power supply?  This sounds like maybe the
>>computer is not getting enough power and is rebooting like a power
>>failure.  The power supply may be providing just enough to power
>>everything but the sound card and that puts it over the edge.
>>
>>
> 
> 

"Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...


> If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be delighted
> to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
of
> soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.  I
> would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> somehow fix it.


Don't know that I will be any help but I have experienced the same/similar
problems as you.  Everything was peachy keen until I put in my SB Audigy
Gamer.  Ever since, I get the exact same symptoms as you except that I am
running 98SE as my OS

After upgrading out the wazoo (new PS, new case, better cooling, unloading
and reloading drivers, clean reinstall) I have come to the following
personal conclusion.  Although unproven, I believe there is a definite
problem with a configuration consisting of the following:....A creative SB
product....AMD processors....MS Operating Systems.. and (naturally) DirectX
8.0+.

Using the newest creative drivers, DirectX Diag still shows my sound drivers
as "not certified".  In your particular case my suspicions may not hold
because your not necessarily running DirectX apps when the crashes
occur.......

Al

Did you by chance bring the Maxtor 13 GB drive as from another system.  The
reason I ask is because I did and after about a month without problems, I
started having the same problems you are talking about.  I keep the drive as
a "My document" drive and took it to new systems with me.

By removing it my problems went away. I hooked it back up and although I
could see everything on it, as soon as I tried to touch anything on the
drive it was freeze up.  When it would boot up it would want to do a
continuity check on drive D.  It would stay at 0% for about 10 minutes and
then hang up.  I would have to disconnect it to boot up.  I move it back to
the old system (also winXP and when I booted up it started the continuity
check (I have never seen a continuity check before), and repaired what
seemed to be every file on the drive and I haven't had any problems since.
Maxtor told me which again I have never heard of, that the drive should be
formatted in the system it is being run in.

I you did it move it as is from another system, try disconnecting it and see
if the problem goes away.

Bob
"Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Nhyh9.346284$Ag2.16299926@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> Here are my system specs, sorry I forgot them as my system rebooted for
the
> nth time.
> Next time remind me to go with Intel.
>
> Asus A7V333-Raid
> 512mb PC2700 RAM
> Athlon XP 2000+ OEM
> CoolJag JAC152A Fan (6000rpm)
> Onboard Sound along with a Soundblaster Live! Value
> Hercules Prophet II MX PCI 32mb
> SOHOWare NIC
> Plextor 121032a
> Maxtor 30 gig 7200rpm ATA-100
> Maxtor 13 gig 7200rpm ATA-66
> nVidia Drivers v29.42
> VIA 4in1 v4.43
> Windows 2000 Professional
>
>

"Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Nhyh9.346284$Ag2.16299926@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>...
> Here are my system specs, sorry I forgot them as my system rebooted for the
> nth time.
> Next time remind me to go with Intel.
> 
> Asus A7V333-Raid
> 512mb PC2700 RAM
> Athlon XP 2000+ OEM
> CoolJag JAC152A Fan (6000rpm)
> Onboard Sound along with a Soundblaster Live! Value
> Hercules Prophet II MX PCI 32mb
> SOHOWare NIC
> Plextor 121032a
> Maxtor 30 gig 7200rpm ATA-100
> Maxtor 13 gig 7200rpm ATA-66
> nVidia Drivers v29.42
> VIA 4in1 v4.43
> Windows 2000 Professional

Use WinXP rather than the W2K.  WinXP has all the drivers that you
need. Also you did not mention your PSU.  Also test your memory using
Memtest x86.

Sometimes just moving the card to a different slot can make problems go away
because its no longer sharing an IRQ with something else. I'm just using the
on-board C-Media on my rig and it sounds pretty damn nice coming out of my
Bose speakers. I not sold on Creative stuff the way I used to be.

David



"Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.  However,
> when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
problems
> started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system hangs,
> and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
>
> A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to
use
> the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem is
> mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
> time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing
the
> web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
saved
> this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
> function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a BSOD.
> The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
> actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of my
> CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
>
> This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only like
> once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
> pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
> SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
sometimes,
> even though it is not.
>
> These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> Different slots for SB live
> Different drivers
> Disabling onboard sound
> Change PC from APIC to Standard
> Different Operating Systems
> and a few more
>
> If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be delighted
> to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
of
> soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.  I
> would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> somehow fix it.
>
>
>

"Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4YOh9.338940$v53.16904395@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> People always talk about the PSU being a problem... In some cases it is,
but
> realistically speaking, I think people blame too much on the PSU.  I don't
> have a geforce 4 installed, only a g2 mx that needs a quarter of the
> power... doesn't even have a fan.  I got no case fans or anything, jst two
> hard drives and a cd burner and floppy... and my nic is the only thing
other
> thing connected to the pci bus... i doubt it's the power supply... 300W
for
> this setup should more than sufficient.

It'll be the NIC clashing with the SB interrupt - try using a different IRQ
if possible.

Stan

> 
> "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.  However,
> > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
>  problems
> > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system hangs,
> > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> >
> > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to
>  use
> > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem is
> > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
> > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing
>  the
> > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
>  saved
> > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
> > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a BSOD.
> > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
> > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of my
> > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> >
> > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only like
> > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
> > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
> > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
>  sometimes,
> > even though it is not.
> >
> > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > Different slots for SB live
> > Different drivers
> > Disabling onboard sound
> > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > Different Operating Systems
> > and a few more
> >
> > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be delighted
> > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
>  of
> > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.  I
> > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> > somehow fix it.
> >
> >
> >

________________________________________________________________________

Post your motherboard model. 

Some boards may have onboard sound disable feature in the bios along
with a jumper setting on the board. Check and make sure you've got
both disable.

____________________________________________________________________________

I'm thinking that your power supply is failing.

"Ric Christian" <ricchristian@msn.com> wrote in message
news:431601c8.0209181927.2e34cfbb@posting.google.com...
> >
> > "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
However,
> > > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
> >  problems
> > > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
hangs,
> > > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> > > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> > >
> > > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like
to
> >  use
> > > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the
problem is
> > > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at
any
> > > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just
browsing
> >  the
> > > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
> >  saved
> > > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the
auto-reboot
> > > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
BSOD.
> > > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc
won't
> > > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> > > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of
my
> > > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> > >
> > > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only
like
> > > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It
is
> > > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note,
the
> > > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
> >  sometimes,
> > > even though it is not.
> > >
> > > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > > Different slots for SB live
> > > Different drivers
> > > Disabling onboard sound
> > > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > > Different Operating Systems
> > > and a few more
> > >
> > > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
delighted
> > > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What
kind
> >  of
> > > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
I
> > > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way
to
> > > somehow fix it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Post your motherboard model.
>
> Some boards may have onboard sound disable feature in the bios along
> with a jumper setting on the board. Check and make sure you've got
> both disable.
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________

Nope, but when i disable the SB Live!, the problem goes away.


"Arge" <bigbc37@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:P2Sh9.12266$rJ3.1049211@kent.svc.tds.net...
> Al
>
> Did you by chance bring the Maxtor 13 GB drive as from another system.
The
> reason I ask is because I did and after about a month without problems, I
> started having the same problems you are talking about.  I keep the drive
as
> a "My document" drive and took it to new systems with me.
>
> By removing it my problems went away. I hooked it back up and although I
> could see everything on it, as soon as I tried to touch anything on the
> drive it was freeze up.  When it would boot up it would want to do a
> continuity check on drive D.  It would stay at 0% for about 10 minutes and
> then hang up.  I would have to disconnect it to boot up.  I move it back
to
> the old system (also winXP and when I booted up it started the continuity
> check (I have never seen a continuity check before), and repaired what
> seemed to be every file on the drive and I haven't had any problems since.
> Maxtor told me which again I have never heard of, that the drive should be
> formatted in the system it is being run in.
>
> I you did it move it as is from another system, try disconnecting it and
see
> if the problem goes away.
>
> Bob
> "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Nhyh9.346284$Ag2.16299926@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Here are my system specs, sorry I forgot them as my system rebooted for
> the
> > nth time.
> > Next time remind me to go with Intel.
> >
> > Asus A7V333-Raid
> > 512mb PC2700 RAM
> > Athlon XP 2000+ OEM
> > CoolJag JAC152A Fan (6000rpm)
> > Onboard Sound along with a Soundblaster Live! Value
> > Hercules Prophet II MX PCI 32mb
> > SOHOWare NIC
> > Plextor 121032a
> > Maxtor 30 gig 7200rpm ATA-100
> > Maxtor 13 gig 7200rpm ATA-66
> > nVidia Drivers v29.42
> > VIA 4in1 v4.43
> > Windows 2000 Professional
> >
> >
>
>

I've never actually had problems with IRQs, if they were shared, they shared
fine.  In this case, though, the Sb Live has its own IRQ.


"Stan Mould" <stanmould@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Le0i9.77$bH1.1222865@news-text.cableinet.net...
>
> "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4YOh9.338940$v53.16904395@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > People always talk about the PSU being a problem... In some cases it is,
> but
> > realistically speaking, I think people blame too much on the PSU.  I
don't
> > have a geforce 4 installed, only a g2 mx that needs a quarter of the
> > power... doesn't even have a fan.  I got no case fans or anything, jst
two
> > hard drives and a cd burner and floppy... and my nic is the only thing
> other
> > thing connected to the pci bus... i doubt it's the power supply... 300W
> for
> > this setup should more than sufficient.
>
> It'll be the NIC clashing with the SB interrupt - try using a different
IRQ
> if possible.
>
> Stan
>
>

Well, I almost completely replaced everything in my system, and even swapped
a new video card in.
The problems are not as heavy as they were before (since the video card was
buggy), but I still get freezes when Unreal Tournament is open or when I
play a song and try to adjust the volume controls.  This doesn't not always
happen exactly like that, but it is very common to happen if I am playing a
video or other directx app.



"ninepepper" <ninepepper@your.mama's.house> wrote in message
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>
> "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
delighted
> > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
> of
> > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
I
> > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> > somehow fix it.
>
>
> Don't know that I will be any help but I have experienced the same/similar
> problems as you.  Everything was peachy keen until I put in my SB Audigy
> Gamer.  Ever since, I get the exact same symptoms as you except that I am
> running 98SE as my OS
>
> After upgrading out the wazoo (new PS, new case, better cooling, unloading
> and reloading drivers, clean reinstall) I have come to the following
> personal conclusion.  Although unproven, I believe there is a definite
> problem with a configuration consisting of the following:....A creative SB
> product....AMD processors....MS Operating Systems.. and (naturally)
DirectX
> 8.0+.
>
> Using the newest creative drivers, DirectX Diag still shows my sound
drivers
> as "not certified".  In your particular case my suspicions may not hold
> because your not necessarily running DirectX apps when the crashes
> occur.......
>
>

I already mentioned that I tried different slots.

Frankly, the C-Media on-board chip is not bad, but it's not good, either.
The sound quality lacks compared to the SB Live! (I can immediately hear a
difference when switching), and the signal to noise ratio, distortion,
effects and eq all lack.

This is why I want to use the Sb Live with the new speakers I just got.


"David Keith" <Davidkth@cox.net> wrote in message
news:D__h9.55677$3k4.43069@news1.central.cox.net...
> Sometimes just moving the card to a different slot can make problems go
away
> because its no longer sharing an IRQ with something else. I'm just using
the
> on-board C-Media on my rig and it sounds pretty damn nice coming out of my
> Bose speakers. I not sold on Creative stuff the way I used to be.
>
> David
>
>
>
> "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
However,
> > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
> problems
> > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
hangs,
> > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> >
> > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like to
> use
> > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the problem
is
> > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at any
> > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just browsing
> the
> > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
> saved
> > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the auto-reboot
> > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
BSOD.
> > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc won't
> > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of
my
> > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> >
> > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only
like
> > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It is
> > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note, the
> > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
> sometimes,
> > even though it is not.
> >
> > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > Different slots for SB live
> > Different drivers
> > Disabling onboard sound
> > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > Different Operating Systems
> > and a few more
> >
> > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
delighted
> > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What kind
> of
> > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
I
> > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way to
> > somehow fix it.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Nah.

"Lonnie" <lthornton1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:NCbi9.42047$ed6.16800@news2.central.cox.net...
> I'm thinking that your power supply is failing.
>
> "Ric Christian" <ricchristian@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:431601c8.0209181927.2e34cfbb@posting.google.com...
> > >
> > > "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
> However,
> > > > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
> > >  problems
> > > > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
> hangs,
> > > > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it,
I
> > > > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> > > >
> > > > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like
> to
> > >  use
> > > > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the
> problem is
> > > > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at
> any
> > > > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just
> browsing
> > >  the
> > > > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad
I
> > >  saved
> > > > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the
> auto-reboot
> > > > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
> BSOD.
> > > > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc
> won't
> > > > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does
a
> > > > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed
of
> my
> > > > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> > > >
> > > > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred
only
> like
> > > > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It
> is
> > > > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note,
> the
> > > > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > > > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
> > >  sometimes,
> > > > even though it is not.
> > > >
> > > > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > > > Different slots for SB live
> > > > Different drivers
> > > > Disabling onboard sound
> > > > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > > > Different Operating Systems
> > > > and a few more
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
> delighted
> > > > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What
> kind
> > >  of
> > > > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same
thing.
> I
> > > > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a
way
> to
> > > > somehow fix it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Post your motherboard model.
> >
> > Some boards may have onboard sound disable feature in the bios along
> > with a jumper setting on the board. Check and make sure you've got
> > both disable.
> >
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
>
>

I kind of already answered that, but thanks anyway.

"Ric Christian" <ricchristian@msn.com> wrote in message
news:431601c8.0209181927.2e34cfbb@posting.google.com...
> >
> > "Al" <siral21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:z3yh9.349258$f05.17732718@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > Hello, I have finished building my own system quite a while ago.
However,
> > > when I installed my SoundBlaster Live! Value (from my old pc), many
> >  problems
> > > started to occur.  For the most part I got a lot of freezes, system
hangs,
> > > and spontaneous reboots.  After trying almost everything to fix it, I
> > > started using the onboard sound instead, and removed the sb live.
> > >
> > > A month later, I am again trying to fix this problem as I would like
to
> >  use
> > > the sb live in conjunction with my new speakers.  This time the
problem is
> > > mostly spontaneous reboots in Windows 2000.  This problem occurs at
any
> > > time, sometimes when I start a song, other times when I'm just
browsing
> >  the
> > > web or even while I write in newsgroups like right now.... I'm glad I
> >  saved
> > > this message.  This spontaneous reboot is not because of the
auto-reboot
> > > function in Windows 2000, because it is turned off... so it is not a
BSOD.
> > > The reboot is also not very proper, usually it reboots, but the pc
won't
> > > actually start, I have to press the reset button.  Sometimes it does a
> > > proper reboot, but the bios goes to the menu where I pick the speed of
my
> > > CPU, as if I had installed it for the first time.
> > >
> > > This problem is also increasing in frequency, before it occurred only
like
> > > once a day or so, but now it occurs every few minutes of PC use.  It
is
> > > pretty much impossible to use the SoundBlaster now.  As a side-note,
the
> > > SoundBlaster's joystick port does not work (as a joystick or midi
> > > controller), but shows that my Ms Sidewinder 3d Pro is connected
> >  sometimes,
> > > even though it is not.
> > >
> > > These are the solutions I have tried with no success:
> > > Different slots for SB live
> > > Different drivers
> > > Disabling onboard sound
> > > Change PC from APIC to Standard
> > > Different Operating Systems
> > > and a few more
> > >
> > > If anyone has ANY suggestions on how to fix this problem, I'd be
delighted
> > > to know as I pretty much feel like chucking the SB Live away.  What
kind
> >  of
> > > soundcard would I get then?  Maybe the audigy would do the same thing.
I
> > > would like to stick with creative for this pc.  There has to be a way
to
> > > somehow fix it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Post your motherboard model.
>
> Some boards may have onboard sound disable feature in the bios along
> with a jumper setting on the board. Check and make sure you've got
> both disable.
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________

mostly to remain stable with old apps, if you are certain that all you 
have is stuff that doesn't need a legacy card you may be fine to disable 
the legacy emulation and it should share fine, until the day when you 
run into a game that still for some odd reason uses legacy access 
methods and decides to crash your system and take your pinky fingers 
with it for a little extra fun.

Al wrote:
> I've never actually had problems with IRQs, if they were shared, they shared
> fine.  In this case, though, the Sb Live has its own IRQ.


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