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Type msconfig in the Run box then in  General  /Advanced - disable Fast
Shutdown.
"Joost Pieper" <joost@pieper.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl...
> Hello,
>
> I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
Then
> I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
> After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
>
> Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
off
> too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
tables!!!
> When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
>
> In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
> system at this time.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem is?
> Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
>
> Greetinx,
>
> Joost Pieper
>
>
>
>
>

See:  http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/0/17.ASP

Joost Pieper wrote in message
<973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl>...
>Hello,
>
>I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
Then
>I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
>After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
>
>Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
off
>too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
tables!!!
>When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
>
>In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
>system at this time.
>
>Does anyone know what the problem is?
>Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
>
>Greetinx,
>
>Joost Pieper
>
>
>
>
>

we have seen this when the ide controllers report back that they are done
writing when, in fact, they aren't.  It has been reported before when a
device was on the ide bus that was not jumpered correctly.  Are you sure the
jumpering is correct?

--

Thomas Geery
Network+ certified


"Joost Pieper" <joost@pieper.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl...
> Hello,
>
> I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
Then
> I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
> After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
>
> Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
off
> too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
tables!!!
> When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
>
> In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
> system at this time.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem is?
> Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
>
> Greetinx,
>
> Joost Pieper
>
>
>
>
>

ME (and I believe 98SE) do not have fast shut down.  But there is another
problem that has been documented if you have an ATA100 drive with a large
cache (2MB) and your processor is more than 700MHz.  The problem first
surfaced on IBM GXP drives.  Microsoft was notified and acknowledged the
problem, but refused to issue a fix.  IBM released a patch to help flush the
cache so that the faster processors would not react so quick before the
cache had a chance to flush on shutdowns (thereby causing a currupt disk).
However, IBM is not readily offering the patch to everyone.  Shortly
thereafter, Micron computer also acknowledged the same problem on non-IBM
drives with large caches.  Micron issued a patch to fix this as well.  Here
are the Micron links:

Win98SE
http://support.micronpc.com/Apps/disclaimer.asp?File=/support/desktop/contro
llers/easton/98ata100.exe

WinME
http://support.micronpc.com/Apps/disclaimer.asp?File=/support/desktop/contro
llers/easton/MEata100.exe

Here is an offsite link to get the IBM patch; it has a low-level format
utility included to assist in recovering from a disasterous disk corruption,
but I believe it should should only be used on IBM GXP drives (use at your
own risk!):

http://hardwarehawaii.net/software/IBMPatch.zip

--

EWT
etuttle7@deltanet.com
(remove 7 to reply)


"Ron Reaugh" <Ron-Reaugh@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Tn_N5.4081$mq1.269382@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> See:  http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/0/17.ASP
>
> Joost Pieper wrote in message
> <973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl>...
> >Hello,
> >
> >I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
> Then
> >I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
> >After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
> >
> >Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
> off
> >too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
> tables!!!
> >When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
> >
> >In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
> >system at this time.
> >
> >Does anyone know what the problem is?
> >Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
> >
> >Greetinx,
> >
> >Joost Pieper
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

TomG wrote in message <8ua49a$2tg$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
>we have seen this when the ide controllers report back that they are done
>writing when, in fact, they aren't.  It has been reported before when a
>device was on the ide bus that was not jumpered correctly.  Are you sure
the
>jumpering is correct?


There are no drive jumpers that affect this issue.

>"Joost Pieper" <joost@pieper.demon.nl> wrote in message
>news:973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
>Then
>> I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
>> After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
>>
>> Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
>off
>> too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
>tables!!!
>> When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
>>
>> In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
>> system at this time.
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem is?
>> Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
>>
>> Greetinx,
>>
>> Joost Pieper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Same problem here ABIT K7 RAID, TBird 800 CPU
but, I have five of the machines running same config and ONE doesn't exhibit
the problem.  Plunking around, I found a "ShutDownTime" in
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
   Control Set xxxx \ Control \ Windows

The one that works has values of
04 0e 43 21 eb 48 c0 01

The ones that fail after (at most) five shutdowns have
04 91 44 3e 49 49 c0 01
instead.

I've tried changing the other machines settings, but the settings "come
back" after a restart.

But, maybe there is something to this after all - I'll keep playing.

"Joost Pieper" <joost@pieper.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:973630578.21246.0.pluto.c30bfacb@news.demon.nl...
> Hello,
>
> I installed a Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (Ultra ATA 100 and Raid controller).
Then
> I connected my Maxtor 52049H3 (20Gb. ATA 100) harddisk (Primary).
> After that I installed Windows (ME or 98se).
>
> Problem: when i turn off the system it seems that the harddisk is turned
off
> too quick, resulting in a damaged system (registry) or corrupt FAT
tables!!!
> When I select 'Restart' (instead of Shutdown) it works.
>
> In the BIOS 'Boot from SCSI' is selected. No other drive is present in my
> system at this time.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem is?
> Further details: MSI 6119 Motherboard, 128 Mb. RAM
>
> Greetinx,
>
> Joost Pieper
>
>
>
>
>