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the 236 is a whacked reading, its no good. All fan headers are the same, but
have different labels

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Darren Wyn Rees <merlin@netlink.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The MSI-Microstar motherboard gives a reading of around 65 (degrees
> celsius) for the Intel Celeron 400 MHz CPU and 236 (degrees celsius)
> for the chassis.
>
> I've tried my best to decipher Intel's support docs for this chip,
> but I can't quite work out what precisely *is* the optimum temperature
> to run this Celeron chip.
>
> How can I -reduce- the temperature of the chassis ?  The computer
> case is a cheap mini-tower and I'm not sure where to stick some
> sort of fan to improve airflow (and thus reduce temperature).
>
> What's the difference between (a) system extractor fan, and (b) case
> chassis fan ?  No, it's not a joke. :-)
>
> Also, looking for supplier of cooling gear in UK.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
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"Darren Wyn Rees" <merlin@netlink.co.uk> wrote in message
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> What's the difference between (a) system extractor fan,
and (b) case
> chassis fan ?  No, it's not a joke. :-)

In my opinion they are one and the same.  Many overclockers
recommend having 2 case fans (usually 80mm) in the rear of
your case, exhausting (sucking out) hot air to the outside.
Also recommended is an intake fan, same size and brand, at
the front of the case to blow cool room-air into the case.
Then you also have the 1-2 fans inside your power supply,
but they primarily cool just the power supply.

You can also add fans that mount in a 5 1/2" bay to help
cool your hard drives, or a PCI-based circular fan that
exhausts heat through that 1 slot...helpful if you have a
hot video card.

CD

I haven't seen the original, so I'm piggybacking.

>Darren Wyn Rees <merlin@netlink.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:986og2$u8b$1@maesd.A470.com...
>> The MSI-Microstar motherboard gives a reading of around 65 (degrees
>> celsius) for the Intel Celeron 400 MHz CPU and 236 (degrees celsius)
>> for the chassis.

At least the chassis reading is wrong - your case and frme are sitting
at twice the boiling point of water?  I think you may have noticed it
that were true.  65degC is certainly very high for the chip temperature,
my Pentium-II 30MHz runs at 30-35degC and I consider that to be hot.

>> I've tried my best to decipher Intel's support docs for this chip,
>> but I can't quite work out what precisely *is* the optimum temperature
>> to run this Celeron chip.

As low as possible (within reason, much below freezing it might not work
too well).

>> How can I -reduce- the temperature of the chassis ?  The computer
>> case is a cheap mini-tower and I'm not sure where to stick some
>> sort of fan to improve airflow (and thus reduce temperature).

Well, for a start make sure that all of the existing fans are running
properly.  Note that fans which just push the air around inside aren't
going to help much, you need an extractor or blower (it doesn't matter
much whether the air is sucked into the housing by the fan or pulled out
by the fan and drawn in through other holes).

You may also be able to get uprated fans to replace your existing ones,
try asking at a local computer shop (no, I don't mean PC World, one
which builds and services their own machines and knows what they are
talking about).

Not knowing your case, I can't say definitely where another fan could be
mounted, but I know that some cases have one at the front (behind the
front panel).  Or if you don't mind making holes in the case, and you
are competant to do metalwork, you could put one on the side (the side
by the open space, not the one next to the motherboard).

Be aware, though, that any of these modifications may invalidate a
warranty if you have one.  If the machine is still under warranty, I
suggest you contact your supplier.

Oh, there is another way to reduce the temperature of a processor.  Run
Linux, not Windoze!  Seriously, my laptop runs really hot under Windoze
but has hardly any temperature rise under Linux except when I'm using it
really intensively (to recompile the kernel, for instance), because
Linux is far better at power management than Windoze is .

>> What's the difference between (a) system extractor fan, and (b) case
>> chassis fan ?  No, it's not a joke. :-)

Hmm.  I think they may be the different words for the same thing, except
that (a) is explicitly an extractor (sucks air from the inside to the
outside) and (b) could be either direction.  Also, the mountings may be
different.

>> Also, looking for supplier of cooling gear in UK.

No idea, sorry.

Chris C

> What's the difference between (a) system extractor fan, and (b) case
> chassis fan ?  No, it's not a joke. :-)

As Colorado Dave says, it is sometimes called the same thing. However, there
is also a system extractor fan which is a fan which mounts into a spare
blanking plate which blows air outwards , typically about �5

>However, there
>is also a system extractor fan which is a fan which mounts into a spare
>blanking plate which blows air outwards , typically about �5
>

And they're very good! I used one to cool a TNT graphics card (no fan, just
a big heatsink) and it did make a big difference to case temperature.

Problem is, it uses up one of your expansion slots, and I've already filled
mine (and still need more!)...

Darren

> Also, looking for supplier of cooling gear in UK.

Try Overclockers UK on

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/index.htm

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